Finals - H2O vs Blackstar BO 9

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So everyone, here it is then! An amazing finals, very close all the way to BO 9!
Attached are the recs.

I streamed this live together with interjection and at max 900 people watching! We split the vods, you can find part 1 on my youtube channel at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTxOealh_3U
The next parts you can find via the links in the description. Enjoy!
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[RE SP] _H2O[BR] vs BlackStar_OP[IN] - Painted Desert.age3yrec
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Painted Desert
Painted Desert
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: Official Patch (Legacy)
Length: 24 minutes
[RE SP] _H2O[IN] vs BlackStar_OP[FR] - New England.age3yrec
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New England
New England
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: Official Patch (Legacy)
Length: 18 minutes
[RE SP] _H2O[CH] vs BlackStar_OP[AZ] - ESOC Manchuria.age3yrec
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ESOC Manchuria
ESOC Manchuria
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: Official Patch (Legacy)
Length: 12 minutes
[RE SP] _H2O[JP] vs BlackStar_OP[JP] - Siberia.age3yrec
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Siberia
Siberia
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: Official Patch (Legacy)
Length: 16 minutes
[RE SP] _H2O[GE] vs BlackStar_OP[GE] - ESOC Kamchatka.age3yrec
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ESOC Kamchatka
ESOC Kamchatka
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: Official Patch (Legacy)
Length: 18 minutes
[RE SP] _H2O[JP] vs BlackStar_OP[JP] - Mongolia.age3yrec
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Mongolia
Mongolia
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: Official Patch (Legacy)
Length: 17 minutes
[RE SP] _H2O[IN] vs BlackStar_OP[SI] - ESOC Hudson Bay.age3yrec
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ESOC Hudson Bay
ESOC Hudson Bay
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: Official Patch (Legacy)
Length: 17 minutes
[RE SP] _H2O[SI] vs BlackStar_OP[SI] - ESOC Arkansas.age3yrec
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ESOC Arkansas
ESOC Arkansas
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: Official Patch (Legacy)
Length: 12 minutes
[RE SP] _H2O[BR] vs BlackStar_OP[IN] - ESOC Pampas Sierras.age3yrec
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ESOC Pampas Sierras
Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: Official Patch (Legacy)
Length: 21 minutes
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watch with viewlock on his perspective?
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venividivici wrote:watch with viewlock on his perspective?
are you for real? of cource this doesnt work, because each player''s file records only his mousecliks and camera moves etc, but thanks for the games
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lol calm down. I thought if you watch on view lock and switch to that player you see his POV etc. Would have to check again then if you say its not.

And since when does a recorded game register clicks ?
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thats what i meant when i said we should rename games in the series veni. Because of POV nonsense.

Recorded game only is able to record data that the player has. The information about clicks made and things looked at is not sent to the other player so they cant have it in their rec file. Thats why when you watch a rec, one persons point of view looks like they are afk half the time.
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@neuron, np i missed that. Never really realized that much or just watched without fog and only BOs.
@h2o, well, as is clear now i thought it was about saving them in general so it doesnt overwrite from nr9 on. Didnt know you were referring to this issue, would have been fine for me if you would save them yourself ofc ^^
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neuron wrote:Also, does anyone have this problem with seeing some numbers overlaid on the screen from the Obs UI map?

Sounds interesting, got a screenshot?
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aizamk wrote:
neuron wrote:Also, does anyone have this problem with seeing some numbers overlaid on the screen from the Obs UI map?
Sounds interesting, got a screenshot?
[img]http://abload.de/img/screen7tkuoa.jpg[/img]

[img style="max-width:100%'" alt="" src="http://abload.de/img/screen800uqj.jpg"]
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it messes up because of the observers' mod
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Thanks for the recs.
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neuron wrote:@aizamk

Yeah, I get the same numbers on the screen as those from the pic. I thought it was because I had a custom UI, but it''s probably from the map.

It''s weird, though, because I''ve seen other games with obs recorded on Obs UI maps and I didn''t see the numbers. So, I thought it must be because these were casted games and the casters had the UI installed. This probably means the map runs differently if the obs have or don''t have the UI mod installed.

Later edit: Wait, these games were rec''d on H2O''s comp, but they display stats as the observers would see them. So it''s not a question of how the map executed on H2O''s computer, unless he was playing with the Obs UI installed. Weird.
No, these games were recorded on veni''s computer. u can actually see his camera move around in the darkness, while interjection''s camera is frozen. i hope both h2o and blackstar post the games with their pov
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Good items Black many congratulations on this victory
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Where is Veni vs Nagayumi's game?
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Where is Veni vs Nagayumi's game?= -=
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Good Question I will look into it.
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neuron wrote:@aizamk

Yeah, I get the same numbers on the screen as those from the pic. [div][attr="class","my-class"][s]I thought it was because I had a custom UI, but its probably from the map. [/s][div][s] Its weird, though, because Ive seen other games with obs recorded on Obs UI maps and I didnt see the numbers. So, I thought it must be because these were casted games and the casters had the UI installed. This probably means the map runs differently if the obs have or dont have the UI mod installed.
Later edit: Wait, these games were recd on H2Os comp, but they display stats as the observers would see them. So its not a question of how the map executed on H2Os computer, unless he was playing with the Obs UI installed. Weird.[/s][/div][newclass=".my-class"]background-color: #222' color: black' padding: 4px'[/newclass][/div]
filippos wrote:No, these games were recorded on venis computer. u can actually see his camera move around in the darkness, while interjections camera is frozen. i hope both h2o and blackstar post the games with their pov
Right.
This is a pretty interesting bug actually. Are they static?

It basically means that it is to some (small) extent possible to carry visual changes over to recorded games, at least when recorded from the PoV of the player who HAD that visual change. Could potentially lead to some interesting things.

If theyre static, for e.g. then I could force the game to overlay a sort of watermark e.g. ASC Tournament 2015 down there whenever people watch a recorded game as from an observers perspective.
(mwahaha)

Does anyone know what happens if they themselves have the mod installed too?

(I should test it myself but have things to do :P)

NB: If they ARE static even with the mod installed, then my hunch is that it only records visual changes run by the trigger at the start of the game.

If they are DYNAMIC with the mod installed, then I might be able to implement a recorded game UI :O
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No mod and i saw weird stuff
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neuron wrote:@aizamk

They''re dynamic, but they update slowly. It''s the same stats displayed for every player and obs, most likely the vills stats per each player.

It''s probably because map execution is embedded in the rec, so all the effects of XS functions running in the map are also captured in the rec. This probably only happens in the observer''s rec if they have the obs file installed.

Those numbers update slowly because 6 10 is the text for 6/10 i.e. player 1''s population. There''s a lot of spaces so the rest isn''t visible. It actually appears to update correctly in realtime.

I did some testing just now, and it looks like the UI is actually 100% functional in a recorded game when you have the mod installed :P. I had run some commands to get the proper UI visible first, but it definitely works. Very interesting stuff, maybe I''ll have a chance to show it on stream later.
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Pm me or Skype me if you have any more details we can talk about integration into the maps we distribute for tournament

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