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Autumn Tournament Information
Sign up for the tournament using your MyESOC panel! *Mostly written by @CurassierAndCurassier

After an extended break from the tournament format, with which we are all familiar (looking at you Weekend Tours who shook things up in an awesome way over spring), we are now back hosting our (possibly annual) 1v1 Championship! Are you at least PR15? Do you like winning? Do you just like to play? Do you like money? Would you like to just play something, win, make money? Sign ups open soon!

New tournament, new rules. I’m sure you’ve got lots of questions, so let’s get right to it, shall we? Do note that this simply covers a few things. Threads will be open soon that will go into everything more thoroughly. A more thorough review.

What’s the map pool going to be like? I don’t want to have to prepare for dozens of maps.
There are only nine maps that will be used in this tournament. They are Manchuria, Tibet, Gran Chaco, Hudson Bay, High Plains, Alaska, Kamchatka, Baja California, and Herald Island. These are nine battle-tested, classic ESOC maps. But make sure to brush up on the ones you’re not familiar with, because these are all you get.

Are there any in-game rules I should know about?
Don’t be a dick. Respect and sportsmanship is mandatory. Serious offense(s) may disqualify you from the tournament. In the immortal words of Tomas Hertl: Fun must be had always.

I lost! But I still want to play so can I please come back into the tournament?
No. BUT if you get eliminated before the bracket stages, then you qualify for the Second Chance.

How much money can I win?
Don't know, it depends on how well you do. There is a $1600 (thank you to everyone who donates! ) prize pool that will be distributed as follows: 1st: $800, 2nd: $400, 3rd: $200, 4th: $100, Betting champion: $100. There is no cash prize pool for the Second Chance Tournament, however its winner as well as the Autumn Champ Winner will receive special badges!

Where can I find the brackets?
The brackets are not yet completed so stay tuned. [spoiler=Helpful Diagram][/spoiler]

I don't care about playing, but I want to watch and put my betting skills to use. When can I do that?
Betting will begin September 24th. Caution: you will be facing the infamous @zoom, who is our own betting Lazarus. What is dead may never die! Even if you are 16k points ahead, as @spanky4ever was last tournament, and Zoi is only sittin' on 100 points, you are still not safe. Maybe @deleted_user2 will be the one to knock out Zoi. As always, betting is free and you are given points with which to bet.

Personally, I'm excited. People have been saying India is good, but are they really uncounterable? Is Brit still a strong pick on the more hunt-heavy maps? Do we have a dark horse in Japan? I have heard straight from the big G that they are underrated, and he's not the only one to say this. What about Ottomans? Are they really bad, or unexplored? Sioux? Spain's Spanish Gold card? There is a lot of uncertainty here, and if players prepare well, the tournament is bound to clear some of that up. Looking forward to some creative new builds that shake up our grounded meta. cough cough @[Armag] diarouga

As always, this tournament was funded by you all. Please don't forget to donate towards the next tournament. Thank you!

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Update: Sign-ups are now closed!

As much as I appreciate the tournament, I'm concerned with the prize-pool. Apart from being a ludicrous amount, considering the state of competitive AoE3, $1500 is irresponsible and jeopardizes ESOC's capacity to stage future events. $1000 already was irresponsible and ridiculous.

More people should donate.

you haven't donation badge

Aykin Haraka wrote:you haven't donation badge

That doesn't your business

$800... Sweet.

Snuden wrote:$800... Sweet.

Thanks for caring about my financial situation

Complains because the prize pool is too high? Are you mildly retarded?

blasdg wrote:Complains because the prize pool is too high? Are you mildly retarded?

Well, it doesn't sound so good if $1600 prize pool now means that the next one will have 100$ prize pool, does it? Have to consider some sustainability.

Can I sign up directly for the second chance tourney?

blasdg wrote:Complains because the prize pool is too high? Are you mildly retarded?

Severely!

Hidddy_ wrote:Can I sign up directly for the second chance tourney?

No

zoom wrote:As much as I appreciate the tournament, I'm concerned with the prize-pool. Apart from being a ludicrous amount, considering the state of competitive AoE3, $1500 is irresponsible and jeopardizes ESOC's capacity to stage future events. $1000 already was irresponsible and ridiculous.

Was thinking the same but I have been thinking that for 2 years now and prizepools keep increasing.
But an update on ESOC's financial situation would be nice

I'm happy to donate if it means it helps to get good games and a great viewer experience etc..

come on lads, we can always raise more funds...time to go big or go home

Am I the only one who notices that, in the rules, there is no mention of the game time beyond which a caster cannot restart a game? In Gameplay Rule 1.6, it is stated that players can restart a game(not being casted by an official caster) only before the two-minute mark; and it also mentions that when there is an official caster, the caster will determine the restarts. However, no where in the Gameplay Rules is it explicitly stated that beyond a certain minute mark, the caster cannot call for a restart. I've watched ESOC tournament matches where it has been assumed that a caster cannot call a restart before the two-minute mark even though the rules don't give a game-time limit for casters; it just gives a two-minute limit for players, and makes no mention of a game-time limit for casters. I don't know if the two-minute mark limit for casters is just a "convention" or some sort of "unspoken rule". If it is a just a "conventional practice" or an "unspoken rule", I'd prefer that it be "spoken" and go beyond just a "convention". And if I've misunderstood something, I'd like things to be clarified.

I think it's assumed that casters should restart the game asap if it is the case. You don't want to restart a game when something already happened.

There have been games where caster haven't noticed til later. I remember a game where a water spawn point didn't spawn, which is a potentially game losing bug, and that wasn't noticed til like 5 minute mark or smt

ye that's a fail indeed, wont happen again

@Magna_Emperia Thanks for your comment. It's always nice to see people who carefully read the rule.
We try our best to keep a rehost, under 2min most of the time.
As well when there wouldn't be a caster and the map spawn like that. Is this better for the players?
I doubt it.

@gibson I rember this game. The caster was alone and didn't had so much experience.
We all humans and mistakes like that happens sadly.
As well when there wouldn't be a caster and the map spawn like that. Is this better for the players?
I doubt it.

We try to keep our caster team always up to date with feedback and a lot of tips.
For example a Ressourcen checking guid for maps.

Magna_Emperia wrote:Am I the only one who notices that, in the rules, there is no mention of the game time beyond which a caster cannot restart a game? In Gameplay Rule 1.6, it is stated that players can restart a game(not being casted by an official caster) only before the two-minute mark; and it also mentions that when there is an official caster, the caster will determine the restarts. However, no where in the Gameplay Rules is it explicitly stated that beyond a certain minute mark, the caster cannot call for a restart. I've watched ESOC tournament matches where it has been assumed that a caster cannot call a restart before the two-minute mark even though the rules don't give a game-time limit for casters; it just gives a two-minute limit for players, and makes no mention of a game-time limit for casters. I don't know if the two-minute mark limit for casters is just a "convention" or some sort of "unspoken rule". If it is a just a "conventional practice" or an "unspoken rule", I'd prefer that it be "spoken" and go beyond just a "convention". And if I've misunderstood something, I'd like things to be clarified.

The process is casters check the map balance and trigger a reset if needed as their first action in the game. This is harder for players who can’t see the whole map. We can always be more clear in the language of the rules, hopefully this one was pretty low impact.

Any minimum PR required to enter this?
(Asking on behalf of a friend)

I think minimum was posted at 15.

Yes, I found it.

dont like only 9 maps, much easier to nerd all of them and find out where the livestock/good treasures are, also not much diversity