Goodspeed wrote:You say it's not about subjective stuff but if you look at it purely objectively, when a player is DQ'd for any reason his opponent moves on to the next round. This has always been the case in the history of tournaments in every game, not just AoE3. It's not at all custom, and highly impractical, to redo your entire bracket just because 1 guy got DQ'd.
To illustrate: Why would WC and Soldier get another chance and not Aiz, who lost to Prince but may have beaten WC? Or iamturk, who lost only to Titnesie and Kynesie and actually beat Prince in the upper bracket?
Because this is not a round robin event and not everyone plays each other. Single elim and to a lesser extent double elim is by design unfair this way. If you get lucky and your opponent gets DQ'd, you move on.
Well yeah I guess it is ultimately about subjective stuff. Admins decisions are subjective anyway.
My point is just that it sucks that tabben goes to the lan without actually qualifying. It's just undeserved and feels unfair to others who made it to the last round of lower brackets. Sure, you could argue that aiz or anyone else could also get another chance and so on. But realistically, tabben's situation is not similar to aiz's, since aiz didn't make it to the last round. To me, tabben's position is totally symmetrical to soldier's or wicked's: they are all out of tourney after losing their qualification series. They didn't lose earlier in the brackets, they all lost in that same round. So I don't see why tabben gets to go through. If it's just because he was lucky enough that kynesie got dq'd, well that's kind of bs. It's just not fair. I wish we'd give these 3 players an equal chance to qualify, both for them and for the viewers.
After all, if the whole double elim system was setup to begin with, it was because they wanted to make sure they select the real top 8 players. Not to end up giving a qualification to someone who didn't qualify.
Again though, I do understand that it's the easiest and fastest solution.