NWC Tournament Disqualifications - Tit and kynesie

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sebnan12 wrote:
I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:{Speaking as a fan - not part of ESOC Team}
I'm sure that ESOC as a collective will review the length/removal of the ban at some point between after the Grand finals of the LAN and before the next 'Seasonal' tournament, Until that point we applaud ESOC for their actions and consider this closed!

no. shud be more than that or ill be going riot.


I meant to review in this time period as all the hype/anger/emotions would have died down from the tourney. I am not trying influence how long the ban should be.
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Some explanations about how it happened.

I was taking a drink, watching TV and watching the stream on my smartphone. I realized, before the india / brit game, that tit was going to lose. He would probably have won the next one, but then he would have to pick first in last game, he didn’t have any good civ yet, and snoww was going to pick in second, with brit or german. It was 95% over. So i offered him to play the last one knowing he had no chance, and it was easy enough for me to win on florida.

I didn t really think about the consequences, especially for others.
Personally, even if going to the LAN is attractive, it's complicated for me to go away 6 days for personal reasons. So i wasn’t really worried about my tourney result or something.

He agreed that I play on his account, share his password, and at the end of his game on pampas, i logged in and played.

It was completely stupid…

[spoiler=spoiler]It wasn t planned at all. It was a private joke that stems from the fact that I wanted to train him at port water, but he said he wouldn t need it.
Our conversation, for those who speak french.
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Interesting, I think many assumed Tit was the initiator.
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Kynesie wrote:Some explanations about how it happened.

I was taking a drink, watching TV and watching the stream on my smartphone..

What were you drinking??
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It was not kynesie's fault, he was just dRuNk
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Sounds like you didnt care what would happen and ended up screwing your friend who may have wanted to go to lan and actually had a legit chance at doing so.
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But why tabben, and not any other who lost to kynesie or soldier and whickedcoss??
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IAmSoldieR wrote:Sounds like you didnt care what would happen and ended up screwing your friend who may have wanted to go to lan and actually had a legit chance at doing so.

I am not trying to defend anyone here but just remember that kynesie and tit aren't native English speakers and may choose words poorly which may not reflect the message or feeling they wish to convey. Again I am not defending anyone but I don't think that screwing tit over was the intention of kynesie although he should have thought more carefully about the consequences...
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Well he didnt need to accept his offer, not like he was forcing him
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t3rror1sta wrote:But why tabben, and not any other who lost to kynesie or soldier and whickedcoss??

Who lost to kynesie, lost fair and square, and apparently those who lost to tit except snowww also lost fair. So the next person qualifies in this case tabben and snowww. Thats how disqualification works even at international level in much bigger events.
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Ya I'm just getting his mindset. He didn't care much about going to lan, maybe couldn't even find the time to, so he had nothing to lose.
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Kynesie beat Snowww while being drunk.
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UpMySleeves wrote:Kynesie beat Snowww while being drunk.

Yea, erik is awful in water games.
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I appreciate the clarity
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What's funny to me is that they didn't even know that their IP was gonna be found out. When we did it we were aware of that but had no intentions to change our IP simply because we were gonna tell wicked anyways. But if my intention were actually to cheat I would've hidden it. It shows that they didn't really think far but still had the intention to get away with it.
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bobabu wrote:What's funny to me is that they didn't even know that their IP was gonna be found out. When we did it we were aware of that but had no intentions to change our IP simply because we were gonna tell wicked anyways. But if my intention were actually to cheat I would've hidden it. It shows that they didn't really think far but still had the intention to get away with it.

Well, kynesie was drunk and Tit didn't think of it. He was probably excited to see he had a chance to go to the LAN.
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Isn't it funny how "taking a drink" turns in to "drunk". Good old telephone.
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t3rror1sta wrote:
Kynesie wrote:Some explanations about how it happened.

I was taking a drink, watching TV and watching the stream on my smartphone..

What were you drinking??

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yea but i think in france "taking a drink" means 3-4 bottles of wine
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Squamiger wrote:yea but i think in france "taking a drink" means 3-4 bottles of wine

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Must've been drinking this to think nobody would bat an eyelid at Tit playing perfect Kynesie ports
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I hope that I can one day get away with my mistakes by stating I was drunk, what a wonderfull world :flowers:
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damn, so if Kynesie could beat snowww while drunk with no warmup on florida, I think Tit would have definitely had a super solid chance of just winning on his own, especially after his performance on baja california. pretty sad.
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Squamiger wrote:damn, so if Kynesie could beat snowww while drunk with no warmup on florida, I think Tit would have definitely had a super solid chance of just winning on his own, especially after his performance on baja california. pretty sad.

No.
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bobabu wrote:What's funny to me is that they didn't even know that their IP was gonna be found out. When we did it we were aware of that but had no intentions to change our IP simply because we were gonna tell wicked anyways. But if my intention were actually to cheat I would've hidden it. It shows that they didn't really think far but still had the intention to get away with it.

kynesie literally said that the thought occured to him in the middle of the series. Hiding an IP like that might have taken some time, idk.

And as for the "obviousness" of it all, and an "obvious" IP check incoming... it's like laughing at when Maginot line "obviously" got succesfully flanked.

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