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Tuvalu gibson
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25 May 2019, 18:45

Kaiserklein wrote:I think people arguing that the winner picks first + can't use his civ again doesn't favour the weaker player just don't have aoe3 tourney experience. So much talk about stats and maths, and so little consideration for actual tourney stuff.
It's much harder to clean sweep someone, even if he's lower and "deserves" to get swept, when he keeps counterpicking you on several kinds of maps, with any civ of his choice, while your own civ pool gets smaller. Or even to beat him, say, 4-1. And believe what you want, but as the underdog, being able to win 1 or 2 games thanks to that makes a comeback much more likely
yes this is a thing people don't seem to understand. These rules can easily turn a series that should be 4-2 into a series thats tied 3-3 going into the last game and you never know what might happen in 1 game. It gives the better player a much smaller margin for error.
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25 May 2019, 18:48

which is great for the viewers
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France [Armag] diarouga
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25 May 2019, 18:54

n0el wrote:which is great for the viewers

The viewer entertainment is important for sure, but you also have to respect the players. And this rule is a bit unfair for the better player.
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Tuvalu gibson
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25 May 2019, 19:28

n0el wrote:which is great for the viewers
absolutely, so it depends what the priority is for the tournament, entertainment or having the best balance.
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Italy Garja
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25 May 2019, 19:45

It is not unfair but it is not very well tought because of the civilazation restriction.
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25 May 2019, 20:35

Yeah the civilization restriction is really the operative thing here though. Even in alternating pick, if you win a bunch of games in a row, you're going to lose access to probably some of your best civs. That's really the rule that punishes you for winning IMO and starts creating imbalance between what each person can bring into the next game. I wonder if a slight adjustment could be made to the rules by which players only lose access to a civ if they win with it on their own counterpick. That way in say, a BO7, if you win games 1, 2, and 3 with your top 3 civs, you'd still be able to pick the civs you used in games 2 and 3 given those were on the other person's counterpick. That way, when it finally becomes your turn to have 3 counterpicks in a row (because the series is over if you won game 4, and the only way the series continues is if the other person keeps winning, making it your counterpick the rest of the match) you can approach those matches with your best options, making your counterpicks no less strong than the ones earlier in the match.
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26 May 2019, 02:17

Totally off topic. This link deserves more clicks.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoCHPm ... 3h8b_Wa15A

Thanks @tabben for having it in your signature

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Micro tricks

LoOk_tOm: I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..

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26 May 2019, 02:43

Kaiserklein wrote:Totally off topic. This link deserves more clicks.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoCHPm ... 3h8b_Wa15A

Thanks @tabben for having it in your signature

spoiler
this is amazing
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26 May 2019, 03:19

ok
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Tuvalu gibson
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26 May 2019, 03:23

sirmuskets brain is a better way to calculate pr than playing games
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United States of America GiBthedurrty
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26 May 2019, 03:36

hpc xD
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26 May 2019, 05:56

Blind picks is the only real option...
Garja Garja
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26 May 2019, 06:44

GiBthedurrty wrote:ok

Youre not pr 35, ypire bug and lame abuser
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Armenia Sargsyan
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26 May 2019, 06:47

@Tinfa @TinfaAoe more commentaries pls
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France captainpouple
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26 May 2019, 08:25

So now he has 2 jobs and 2 cars ! Bow down peasants !
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26 May 2019, 09:44

Bwinner "low brain" :sad:
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26 May 2019, 10:22

boyu wrote:Bwinner "low brain" :sad:

RIP me :sad:
I like one guy called me "a spain lammer" in the comment :lol:
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26 May 2019, 10:27

bwinner1 wrote:
boyu wrote:Bwinner "low brain" :sad:

RIP me :sad:

b-rain :flowers:
Correlation doesn't mean causation.
http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

"mr.brookg go buy jeans and goto the club with somppuli" - Princeofkabul, July 2018
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France Kaiserklein
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26 May 2019, 10:28

GiBthedurrty wrote:ok

He talks a lot about you in his videos
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LoOk_tOm: I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..

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India rsy
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26 May 2019, 20:14

Sargsyan wrote:@Tinfa @TinfaAoe more commentaries pls

Ahaha 4 subs vs 1.5k subs on mrsargi7. This is the real king. Just subbed btw
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30 May 2019, 14:02

rsy wrote:
Sargsyan wrote:@Tinfa @TinfaAoe more commentaries pls

Ahaha 4 subs vs 1.5k subs on mrsargi7. This is the real king. Just subbed btw

Haha thanks but im not uploading anything for like 6 yeara already, also most of my vids got copyright'd
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Turkey Mameluke
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23 Jun 2019, 01:21

I've just read this thread - sad, I love kynesie's play style.
If you see any mistakes in my grammar/vocabulary or whatever, please correct me. I really appreciate it :!: :flowers:
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23 Jun 2019, 01:52

umeu wrote:As if it would be sincere, lol. "Esoc, im sorry i got caught!" We've seen multiple sir musket apologies already...

You apologize for something that you didnt do intentionally, or that you were later made to realize was wrong, while you didnt think it was before. They definitely did it intentionally while knowing it was wrong. An apology would just be show.

You definitely can't say it like that, because people can change from one moment to another.
If you see any mistakes in my grammar/vocabulary or whatever, please correct me. I really appreciate it :!: :flowers:
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23 Jun 2019, 02:18

Kynesie wrote:Some explanations about how it happened.

It was completely stupid…


you id*ot.
1. Why did you drink alcohol? It harms your body & soul. (well it seems like not your aoe skills :mrgreen:)
2. after "it was completely stupid..." you needed to say what many cant read between the lines: "it was completely stupid AND im sorry about the whole case and this will for sure never ever happen again in future." or something like that.
3. Please start streaming or so, I wanna see more of your games.
If you see any mistakes in my grammar/vocabulary or whatever, please correct me. I really appreciate it :!: :flowers:
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No Flag ovi12
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23 Jun 2019, 02:31

Damn I COMPLETELY forgot about this.
last time i cryed was because i stood on Lego

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