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21 Apr 2019, 21:04

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[EP6 SP] Mitoe[DU] vs Kaiserklein[RU] - ESOC Arkansas.age3yrec
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Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
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Length: 47 minutes
[EP6 SP] Mitoe[SI] vs Hazza[FR] - ESOC Kamchatka.age3yrec
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Length: 17 minutes
[EP6 SP] Hazza[RU] vs Mitoe[BR] - Deccan.age3yrec
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[EP6 SP] Hazza[AZ] vs Mitoe[IN] - ESOC Thar Desert.age3yrec
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Length: 16 minutes
[EP6 SP] Hazza[SP] vs Mitoe[GE] - ESOC High Plains.age3yrec
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Rules: Supremacy (1v1)
Version: ESOC Patch 6.0
Length: 20 minutes
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France Kaiserklein
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21 Apr 2019, 21:10

Do not watch that recorded game unless you want to get worse at the game
Can sirmusket calculate 5x - x??
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
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United States of America Cometk
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21 Apr 2019, 21:11

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21 Apr 2019, 21:14

Cometk wrote:@SirCallen

hm?
and the giving famishes the craving
sweet thames, run softly, til I end my song

The shepherd's staff's tantalus around my neck

please stop eating :food:
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21 Apr 2019, 21:16

Mitoe wrote:Apparently we didn't rec the 2nd game (Baja), so here's an ego rec of the worst game ever played between me and Kaiserklein.

Kaiserklein wrote:Do not watch that recorded game unless you want to get worse at the game

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France Aykin Haraka
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21 Apr 2019, 21:27

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21 Apr 2019, 21:32

Cometk wrote:
Mitoe wrote:Apparently we didn't rec the 2nd game (Baja), so here's an ego rec of the worst game ever played between me and Kaiserklein.

Kaiserklein wrote:Do not watch that recorded game unless you want to get worse at the game

@SirCallen

Oh, thank you.
and the giving famishes the craving
sweet thames, run softly, til I end my song

The shepherd's staff's tantalus around my neck

please stop eating :food:
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United States of America GiBthedurrty
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21 Apr 2019, 21:34

it's alright i guess. Mitoe is best player from NA so i am fan of him and hazza was tough choice.
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Norway iwillspankyou
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21 Apr 2019, 21:35

congrats to Mitoe, and sorry for you Hazza, it was a close game
Hippocrits are the worst of animals. I love elifants.
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21 Apr 2019, 21:41

@Hazza54321 may you want a lesson about wall water and yumi ? i think i can help you
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France Kaiserklein
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21 Apr 2019, 21:46

Lesson 1: get bastion
Can sirmusket calculate 5x - x??
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
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United States of America IAmSoldieR
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22 Apr 2019, 00:53

Comeback of the century!!
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22 Apr 2019, 02:54

@Garja 1 side can always get middle pass on baja. the other side can sometimes get it (india and japan can also always get it) Baja is just a crap map since you changed it recently. Tres locations have changed a bit, resulting in some bugged tres (1 bear 95w on edge of map, had it 3x already) hunts are frequently fucked as well.
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22 Apr 2019, 13:55

Nice job Alaron. Watched the stream yesterday from my office. Just happened to be checking what's going on.
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France [Armag] diarouga
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22 Apr 2019, 13:59

Yea, the hunts really suck currently.
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Canada Warno
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22 Apr 2019, 14:10

Just watched, too bad these high level matchups aren't BO7 but I can't complain too much about good AOE3 content.
Nice job Mitoe!
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Italy Garja
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22 Apr 2019, 14:42

@deleted_user @Diarouga stop crying

Baja California:
left spawn can never get mid TP first passage, right spawn can get it about 60% of times. This is assuming most optimal explorer micro and Otto civ. India Japan can get it from both sides (gl making use of it and defending it). Mid spawn is worth 25 seconds on first shipment for right spawn, 35 or so for left spawn. If you lose the passage (NB: you get it literally by 1 second) then it's 1min+ wait till the next one.
Hunts are identical. In fact now hunts are closer (distance has been downscaled to adjust to map size). Mines are also closer but there is a good chance to get one exposed in front (intended as it's 3 a mine setup). Goats hunt were supposed to be 6, now they sometimes are only 5 because of space. It's ok.
Dunno about treasures. I never saw that and it makes no sense for it to happen, has "avoidedge" constraint is the same. Nothing has been changed in that regard. Treasure location is indeed partially different just because of map resizing and treasures moving to other places where they find room to spawn.
First hunt might get bugged occasionally just because of closer starting stuff and probably slightly undersized avoid overlap constraint.

I tried increasing size of the map size (in between old and new) to see if it helps with the first passage. It doesn't really. Travois reach mid TP at 47 seconds in both cases, so it's again about luck to get it or not.
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22 Apr 2019, 15:02

Garja wrote:@deleted_user @Diarouga stop crying

Baja California:
left spawn can never get mid TP first passage, right spawn can get it about 60% of times. This is assuming most optimal explorer micro and Otto civ. India Japan can get it from both sides (gl making use of it and defending it). Mid spawn is worth 25 seconds on first shipment for right spawn, 35 or so for left spawn. If you lose the passage (NB: you get it literally by 1 second) then it's 1min+ wait till the next one.
Hunts are identical. In fact now hunts are closer (distance has been downscaled to adjust to map size). Mines are also closer but there is a good chance to get one exposed in front (intended as it's 3 a mine setup). Goats hunt were supposed to be 6, now they sometimes are only 5 because of space. It's ok.
Dunno about treasures. I never saw that and it makes no sense for it to happen, has "avoidedge" constraint is the same. Nothing has been changed in that regard. Treasure location is indeed partially different just because of map resizing and treasures moving to other places where they find room to spawn.
First hunt might get bugged occasionally just because of closer starting stuff and probably slightly undersized avoid overlap constraint.

I tried increasing size of the map size (in between old and new) to see if it helps with the first passage. It doesn't really. Travois reach mid TP at 47 seconds in both cases, so it's again about luck to get it or not.


you are so dumb honestly. right spawn can get it always. left spawn can get it maybe 33-50% of the time. I havent tested thoroughly but I know that when I was trying it with mitoe, we tried it like 4-5 times, and I got it half of the time. In the fuckign stream you were watching, mitoe even got the pass, and you say left can never get it. your head is so far up your ass... its a fucking miracle you can still see what you're typing.
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22 Apr 2019, 15:03

i prefered the previous baja agreed was a fine map, its supposed to be large by design
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22 Apr 2019, 15:23

umeu wrote:you are so dumb honestly. right spawn can get it always. left spawn can get it maybe 33-50% of the time. I havent tested thoroughly but I know that when I was trying it with mitoe, we tried it like 4-5 times, and I got it half of the time. In the fuckign stream you were watching, mitoe even got the pass, and you say left can never get it. your head is so far up your ass... its a fucking miracle you can still see what you're typing.


You're dumb honestly. Idk if it changes anything with 4actual players lag but in 1v1 tests I did (40) left can't get it, or if it can I'm yet to get it, which means it's -10% chance. Right spawn also doesn't get it every time. Mitoe got lucky there.

In any case, old Baja is not happening.
Hazza54321 wrote:i prefered the previous baja agreed was a fine map, its supposed to be large by design

It is not supposed to be large. And it wasn't balanced that it was large.
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22 Apr 2019, 15:32

Garja wrote:
umeu wrote:you are so dumb honestly. right spawn can get it always. left spawn can get it maybe 33-50% of the time. I havent tested thoroughly but I know that when I was trying it with mitoe, we tried it like 4-5 times, and I got it half of the time. In the fuckign stream you were watching, mitoe even got the pass, and you say left can never get it. your head is so far up your ass... its a fucking miracle you can still see what you're typing.


You're dumb honestly. Idk if it changes anything with 4actual players lag but in 1v1 tests I did (40) left can't get it, or if it can I'm yet to get it, which means it's -10% chance. Right spawn also doesn't get it every time. Mitoe got lucky there.

In any case, old Baja is not happening.
Hazza54321 wrote:i prefered the previous baja agreed was a fine map, its supposed to be large by design

It is not supposed to be large. And it wasn't balanced that it was large.


k ur not dumb. but insane. the whole stream sees it happening that mitoe got it on left spawn, and you just come in chat and in here saying it can NEVER happen... lol
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France [Armag] diarouga
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22 Apr 2019, 15:35

Blame the lag haha.
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22 Apr 2019, 15:46

just tried it 7x in a row. then i got bored. 3x right. 4x left. guess how many times i got pass? like hmm... every. fucking. time...

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22 Apr 2019, 15:51

Umeu getting smashed by the ai
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22 Apr 2019, 15:52

I also just tried it now. Seems very consistent. Got it 8/8 times on right, 4/5 on left, and I missed because it spawned as far to the right as possible. On the left it's definitely a small risk, on the right it's certainty.

I have also never missed it in actual games, regardless of which side I've spawned on; which was at least 5 more games.

I tested all of this in obs mode with 1 spectator. Maybe that changes something somehow? I'm not really willing to test it without right now, but I doubt it changes anything.

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