[SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
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[SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
Surprised and disappointed.
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
pr 25 vs pr 25 soUNDS PRETTY EQUAL :)
Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
Cossack now needs to make a guide for the rest of the 13 civs too
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
GS needs to update his guide....
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
Of course it is! You just need to bring wine so that I may further drown my sorrows.WickedCossack wrote:I hope @XeeleeFlower invitation is still open
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
You have to witness goodspeed in person to fully realize how little shits he gives about (playing) AoE.
Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
It was actually fun tbh. Made me want to play Sioux more. Shame they're about to rework the civ again
Expected a little more solidarity in the civ selection in g1 though. Here I am having played like 3 games in the last 2 years and being forced to play either an India mirror, a match up I've never liked and you undoubtedly know very well, or blind pick...
Expected a little more solidarity in the civ selection in g1 though. Here I am having played like 3 games in the last 2 years and being forced to play either an India mirror, a match up I've never liked and you undoubtedly know very well, or blind pick...
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
If I lost my team 5 points I'd not label it as fun.
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
I also understand Wicked doesn't want to risk anything in the first game. I guess nobody really knew how you would perform.Goodspeed wrote:It was actually fun tbh. Made me want to play Sioux more. Shame they're about to rework the civ again
Expected a little more solidarity in the civ selection in g1 though. Here I am having played like 3 games in the last 2 years and being forced to play either an India mirror, a match up I've never liked and you undoubtedly know very well, or blind pick...
Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
We do what we can.. I think that one went wrong at buying me for 1300 and putting me up against a player like WC in the first placedeleted_user wrote:If I lost my team 5 points I'd not label it as fun.
Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
Regardless the process didn't feel fair. I think you need better rules for it. Shouldn't be acceptable to suggest only civ counters and refuse 12/14 mirrors.edeholland wrote:I also understand Wicked doesn't want to risk anything in the first game. I guess nobody really knew how you would perform.Goodspeed wrote:It was actually fun tbh. Made me want to play Sioux more. Shame they're about to rework the civ again
Expected a little more solidarity in the civ selection in g1 though. Here I am having played like 3 games in the last 2 years and being forced to play either an India mirror, a match up I've never liked and you undoubtedly know very well, or blind pick...
Having said that the civ dance was fun too. Who doesn't love banter
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
Maybe there should be the option to pick "mirror" in a blind pick where you just mirror whatever the opponent has chosen. This would favour those that do want to play mirrors but that doesn't sound less unfair than forcing a blind pick. Of course, if both players do this, they are assigned a random mirror matchup which may be problematic.Goodspeed wrote:Regardless the process didn't feel fair. I think you need better rules for it. Shouldn't be acceptable to suggest only civ counters and refuse 12/14 mirrors.edeholland wrote:I also understand Wicked doesn't want to risk anything in the first game. I guess nobody really knew how you would perform.Goodspeed wrote:It was actually fun tbh. Made me want to play Sioux more. Shame they're about to rework the civ again
Expected a little more solidarity in the civ selection in g1 though. Here I am having played like 3 games in the last 2 years and being forced to play either an India mirror, a match up I've never liked and you undoubtedly know very well, or blind pick...
Having said that the civ dance was fun too. Who doesn't love banter
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
Goodspeed wrote:It was actually fun tbh. Made me want to play Sioux more. Shame they're about to rework the civ again
Expected a little more solidarity in the civ selection in g1 though. Here I am having played like 3 games in the last 2 years and being forced to play either an India mirror, a match up I've never liked and you undoubtedly know very well, or blind pick...
sioux is so much fun please stop zoo!
Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
Well the thing is I don't even like mirrors either, but the rules basically force them because any non-mirror match up that gets suggested is typically good for one side. You'll note we started by picking non-mirrors but it quickly became clear that wasn't gonna work. Iirc the only non-counter that was suggested was Jap vs India. Like am I really supposed to play into his Dutch with French on a no TP map? I don't think Sioux vs Russia on no TP is bad for Russia either, I thought I was being generous there but it was refused as well.edeholland wrote:Maybe there should be the option to pick "mirror" in a blind pick where you just mirror whatever the opponent has chosen. This would favour those that do want to play mirrors but that doesn't sound less unfair than forcing a blind pick. Of course, if both players do this, they are assigned a random mirror matchup which may be problematic.Goodspeed wrote:Regardless the process didn't feel fair. I think you need better rules for it. Shouldn't be acceptable to suggest only civ counters and refuse 12/14 mirrors.Show hidden quotes
Having said that the civ dance was fun too. Who doesn't love banter
Maybe it would be easier on TP maps come to think of it.
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
Isn't the game overall more balance on TP maps nowadays? It would make sense that it would make the process easier. Especially since Wicked mostly proposed matchups where you would get a tp-dependant civ. Maybe we should make sure the first map is always a fair & balanced one (so one without water and with TP's).Goodspeed wrote:Well the thing is I don't even like mirrors either, but the rules basically force them because any non-mirror match up that gets suggested is typically good for one side. You'll note we started by picking non-mirrors but it quickly became clear that wasn't gonna work. Iirc the only non-counter that was suggested was Jap vs India. Like am I really supposed to play into his Dutch with French on a no TP map? I don't think Sioux vs Russia on no TP is bad for Russia either, I thought I was being generous there but it was refused as well.edeholland wrote:Maybe there should be the option to pick "mirror" in a blind pick where you just mirror whatever the opponent has chosen. This would favour those that do want to play mirrors but that doesn't sound less unfair than forcing a blind pick. Of course, if both players do this, they are assigned a random mirror matchup which may be problematic.Show hidden quotes
Maybe it would be easier on TP maps come to think of it.
Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
It would've helped in this case, but either way this rule set seems to favor players who insist on a match up that is good for them. Like regardless you shouldn't be allowed to refuse 12/14 mirrors imo.
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
why not. blind pick seems fairer to me than to be forced into a mirror u dont want to play.
Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
Blind pick has no place in competitive AoE3. Should never be an option
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
Ideally the issue of counterpicking wouldn't arise if game was balanced, cuz then all civs would be relatively similar. The MU would then be decided on players playstyle and strategy which would be ideal.
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
Goodspeed wrote:Blind pick has no place in competitive AoE3. Should never be an option
forcing a mirror has no place either imo. forcing any mu tbh has no place. i'd rather be forced to lock into sioux vs india on no tp than to be forced into an india mirror.
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
You would have the exact same issue.princeofcarthage wrote:Ideally the issue of counterpicking wouldn't arise if game was balanced, cuz then all civs would be relatively similar. The MU would then be decided on players playstyle and strategy which would be ideal.
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
instead of blind pick, could have players list 5 mu's they'd play. and then see if any are the same.
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How else do you make sure it's fair? Non-mirror suggestions are just civ counter after civ counter. And if the players refuse every remotely even match up suggested, how do you deal with that?umeu wrote:forcing a mirror has no place either imo. forcing any mu tbh has no place. i'd rather be forced to lock into sioux vs india on no tp than to be forced into an india mirror.Goodspeed wrote:Blind pick has no place in competitive AoE3. Should never be an option
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Re: [SKG] WickedCossack vs [NN] Goodspeed
why sign up on a tourney when you don't intend to practice at all, but then be impossible to negotiate with on a MU?
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