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Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 20:22
by Kaiserklein
Result

Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 20:27
by tedere12
ggs great series

Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 20:34
by TheNameDaniel
EZ4MOTHERFUCKINGCMC

Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 20:36
by Kaiserklein
Lost the 2 unlosable match ups, feels bad

Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 20:38
by Mr_Bramboy
Kaiserklein wrote:Lost the 2 unlosable match ups, feels bad
Otto vs Iro is unlosable?

Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 20:45
by Kaiserklein
Imo it's easily otto favoured, and unlosable on a 4 tps map where you can ship boats in ponds and he can't.
If you lose 15 vils for free though, it's possible to lose any mu.

Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 20:47
by deleted_user0
this sioux-otto is becoming such meme mu as its unlosable for sioux but their tournament record recently is absolute terrible XD

Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 20:49
by aqwer
Knuschelbär may have lost the series but his Otto play on High Plains is outclass

Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 20:51
by bwinner
I agree that on this map it has to be heavily otto favoured (unlosable might be exagerated). I would more question weather otto vs sioux is unlosable for sioux on 5 TP map. The way knusch played it (a bit similar to what you did vs mitoe) seem really good, knusch always seemed to be in control this game.

Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 20:53
by Mr_Bramboy
somppukunkku wrote:this sioux-otto is becoming such meme mu as its unlosable for sioux but their tournament record recently is absolute terrible XD
I feel like it's being done on purpose. I see both sides of the matchup being unwinnable spammed in every twitch chat every time it's played.

Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 21:02
by Kaiserklein
bwinner wrote:I agree that on this map it has to be heavily otto favoured (unlosable might be exagerated). I would more question weather otto vs sioux is unlosable for sioux on 5 TP map. The way knusch played it (a bit similar to what you did vs mitoe) seem really good, knusch always seemed to be in control this game.
I just did the same mistake as mitoe did, not controlling the map. I haven't watched back yet, but I'm sure there was a large window where I had more mass and could deny tcs, around when I killed his 2 falcs with my rr. If he can't tc on the map, and also loses the tp line, he's simply lost. I agree it's the best way to play the mu as otto but I'm pretty sure it's not enough to win anyway.

Additionally I could have just gone pure triple carded br with the comanche hp upgrade instead of training useless wakinas... And win too. I realized this and went double stable, but too late.

Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 22:41
by deleted_user0
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Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 24 Nov 2019, 22:43
by Hazza54321
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Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 25 Nov 2019, 03:28
by vividlyplain
great cast @Cometk

Re: Kaiserklein vs Knuschelbär

Posted: 25 Nov 2019, 16:50
by Majora_
vividlyplain wrote:great cast @Cometk
really good