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Since there's no more EP team, I think it's time for me to make some suggestions regarding the changes:

India:
house cost reverted to 80w

Although I don't think India is overpowered, that seems to be the general opinion, thus I suggest this small nerf.


Aztecs:
x3 exp on deleted buildings

Just a small change, but it's very frustrating when people deleted their building (especially shrines) when you have a *3 exp bonus as Aztecs. I think it's cheating because that's not how the game is supposed to work.

Sioux:
teepee gather rate from 3% to 2%

The community also thinks Sioux is op (I don't but it doesn't matter), so I think we should consider nerfing them, and this is just a small change.

Otto:
veteran abus gun gives +1 range (down from 2 range)

Otto is probably a bit too strong as well. I don't really know how to nerf them, but this one seems fair. After all, abus aren't meant to kill everything in age 3, if you have other suggestions, I'd be glad to hear it.

Port:
3 organs for 200c

Port is a bit weak in 1v1. I think this change (which was suggested by Zoi), would make them a bit stronger in early fortress, while not affecting team game, nor early game.

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agreed with all
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I'd like to see a comeback of jinetes for ports :P
#bringbackmyjinetes
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since when have veteran abus guns been an issue?
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Cometk wrote:since when have veteran abus guns been an issue?

Idk. I just think Otto should get a small nerf, but I had no other idea.
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knusch wrote:I'd like to see a comeback of jinetes for ports :P
#bringbackmyjinetes

Jinete was removed because of team players, and since it doesn't have a huge impact on 1v1, I don't see the need to bring it back.
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Imo:
Ports don't need a buff.
Sioux need to have the hp aura on teepees nerfed, that's the real problem cause it makes it super hard to push in their base. The gathering boost is ok at 3 %.
Otto probs doesn't need a nerf, but I guess this change is ok
And then brits is still too strong, and russia could see a small buff.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
knusch wrote:I'd like to see a comeback of jinetes for ports :P
#bringbackmyjinetes

Jinete was removed because of team players, and since it doesn't have a huge impact on 1v1, I don't see the need to bring it back.


i think i can speak for all team players that would like to see that change reverted. since it's not a big deal in 1v1 i don't see any reason why not to.
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brits arent too strong though
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knusch wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:
knusch wrote:I'd like to see a comeback of jinetes for ports :P
#bringbackmyjinetes

Jinete was removed because of team players, and since it doesn't have a huge impact on 1v1, I don't see the need to bring it back.


i think i can speak for all team players that would like to see that change reverted. since it's not a big deal in 1v1 i don't see any reason why not to.

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If team players don't have issue with that anymore, I guess we can revert it. I remember veni cried a lot about Port.
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please dont revert hes trolling
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Hazza54321 wrote:brits arent too strong though

So the 5w change fixed them?
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Kaiserklein wrote:Imo:
Ports don't need a buff.

Most players think they do. Anyway, it's not a game breaking buff.

Sioux need to have the hp aura on teepees nerfed, that's the real problem cause it makes it super hard to push in their base. The gathering boost is ok at 3 %.

As I said, I don't really have an issue with Sioux but the people who complained told me that now Sioux could just outboom thanks to the teepees, so I assumed the gathering boost was the issue.

Otto probs doesn't need a nerf, but I guess this change is ok
And then brits is still too strong, and russia could see a small buff.
Brit is probably a bit too strong, but I don't think they're strong enough to deserve a nerf, +5wood on manors was already quite big.
Russia probably deserves a small buff, but I don't see how. It wouldn't be reasonable to buff their age 2 or their economy because they'd become broken again. Idk, maybe buff another fortress shipment, or CAs xD.

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Hazza54321 wrote:please dont revert hes trolling

:lol:
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Kaiserklein wrote:
Hazza54321 wrote:brits arent too strong though

So the 5w change fixed them?

they were a little overated in the first place but yes it is a notable difference with 5w
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Hazza54321 wrote:please dont revert hes trolling


ehm EXCUSE ME!?! speak for yourself!
some ppl tryin to contribute to reinstore the original design of the civs!

ps: sioux don't outboom shit lmao
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knusch wrote:
Hazza54321 wrote:please dont revert hes trolling


ehm EXCUSE ME!?! speak for yourself!
some ppl tryin to contribute to reinstore the original design of the civs!

You trollin right?

ps: sioux don't outboom shit lmao

That's what Harry told me lol.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
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i think i can speak for all team players that would like to see that change reverted. since it's not a big deal in 1v1 i don't see any reason why not to.

@Hazza54321 @princeofkabul @deleted_user2 [mention]u7128[/mention]
If team players don't have issue with that anymore, I guess we can revert it. I remember veni cried a lot about Port.


i am fairly confident that veni will address his faulty concerns regarding this issue at the weekend @Hazza54321 ;)
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Ottomans don't need nerf !
I don't think people considere sioux as op.
Ok for the india change and the aztec change. Not sure ports need a buff but I am fine with this change.
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bwinner1 wrote:Ottomans don't need nerf !

The nerf is not that relevant though.

I don't think people considere sioux as op.

I don't, but according to Mitoe, Sioux is currently by far the best civ, and Hazza, tabben, kaiser, and some other guys all claim that Sioux is at least top 3.

Ok for the india change and the aztec change. Not sure ports need a buff but I am fine with this change.
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No ep team anymore, srsly?
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It's not about the nerf being big or not, there is just no reason to do this.
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Atomiswave wrote:No ep team anymore, srsly?

Yea, GS left so Zoi is currently EP leader ( :lol: ), and there's no team.
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bwinner1 wrote:It's not about the nerf being big or not, there is just no reason to do this.

Both Mitoe and me think Otto is currently top 3.

You know, there's no EP team, so that's not easy to know what people think, thus I rely on the opinion of the people I ask.

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