Kaiserklein wrote:First of all you (as usual) only take into account arkansas basically. You just totally forget about water, no tp, big tp lines, livestock, etc. And ger/fre just so happen to get rather fucked on water and no tp, while some civs (like india/brit/dutch) are totally fine on almost any map. And then, I just totally disagree with your opinions of the match ups.
France doesn't beat india and it's close vs ports (depends on the map). I'd say they lose to iro/sioux/brits though it's close and it depends on the map too.
Ger doesn't beat china or ports, it's close. Not sure vs dutch anymore but it's not a clear win for germany. It also loses to brits and sioux.
I'd rather be india, brits, dutch, sioux or even iro than fr/ger, so I don't rank them tier 1, but tier 2. Maybe slightly above average if at all
No TP maps don't matter because if you get one you can just rehost in custom games, or just don't play fre/ger on it in tourney. No TP maps shouldn't even exist anyway.
France does beat India, and although Port can do well, France has the edge because Port can't really deal effectively with the falcs, and in late age 3 cuirs just rape cassa. Also France should outmass in middle age 3.
Iro is a tough MU but they don't really lose to brit/Sioux, it's close.
From my experience Germany beats Ports. I'm not sure about China, but on the RE with RE uhlans, Germany used to win (that would still make Germany the 5th civ ie still top tier). And they don't lose to brit for sure, and although I've never played Sioux vs Germany on the EP, I don't think that Sioux wins it easily, considering Germany used to have an easy time on the RE.