EP6 Pre-tournament Balance Poll (Mar 2019)

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EP6 Pre-tournament Balance Poll (Mar 2019)

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Hai – I wish everyone well!

Between the release of EP6, and the upcoming event, it's time for another poll. Your response is instrumental to patch development:

https://tinyurl.com/y5lrtvn9

Moving forward, one major goal of EP7 will be increasing the number of viable options. As per usual, certain civilizations may be especially rebalanced, depending on feedback. Please keep in mind that no changes are currently scheduled for implementation, before the conclusion of the LAN event, this summer. Once the development process picks up, active player feedback will be further improved upon. In the mean time, as always, I will continue gathering it—not least here on ESOC.

Thank you all for your feedback, patience and support!
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let's at least revert the Sioux WC change before tourney. None likes it and objectively it doesnt accomplish anything.
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Garja wrote:let's at least revert the Sioux WC change before tourney. None likes it and objectively it doesnt accomplish anything.
A subjectively interesting and objectively incorrect claim. Still, I will look into how other players feel about it, once more. Popularity is important, but makes for a poor argument, per se. Have you tested the change, yet?

As for alternatives, reverting is not an option, without also either reverting the heavy cavalry tag, or removing the unit's snare. After all, the change was not made hastily.
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Thank you to everyone who responded, so far. I'll try to provide better graphs, shortly.
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zoom wrote:
Garja wrote:let's at least revert the Sioux WC change before tourney. None likes it and objectively it doesnt accomplish anything.
A subjectively interesting and objectively incorrect claim. Still, I will look into how other players feel about it, once more. Popularity is important, but a poor argument, per se. Have you tested the change, yet?

As for alternatives, reverting is not an option, without also either reverting the heavy cavalry tag, or removing the unit's snare. After all, the change was not made hastily.

Literally none thinks this was a good idea.
And obviously revert everything. The heavy cav tag idea was just something to improve balance. If you add side effects to it then it's pointless.
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Better data graphics, courtesy of Goodspeed:

http://tinyurl.com/yx9wmv7c

Again, thank you to all respondents!
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Germans? What?
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Damn thats accurate
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I am surprise jap went 1 point down after shrine buff. Really surprised to see them so low rated.
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Lukas responded twice, but he's so good, I'll let it stand. I only make exceptions like that for him and Garja!

I did remove a couple of completely bogus responses, though.
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bwinner1 wrote:I am surprise jap went 1 point down after shrine buff. Really surprised to see them so low rated.


it's because they are a poor 1v1 civ haha

This list is probably the one i agree with most out of the past rankings, the only thing i can't get behind is germany being number one. They are way too map and mu dependant to have them in top 3
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On a typical esoc tp map not many civs can rival germans, i guess sioux, and brit on high hunt. Perhaps India aswell
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Hazza54321 wrote:On a typical esoc tp map not many civs can rival germans, i guess sioux, and brit on high hunt. Perhaps India aswell


Exactly my point, and now take into account that more (?) than half the maps do not meet the requirements for ger to shine... i don't see why it should be nr 1
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Results must have changed since my first reply, ger now nr 4, which sounds fine to me
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zoom wrote:Lukas responded twice, but he's so good, I'll let it stand. I only make exceptions like that for him and Garja!

I did remove a couple of completely bogus responses, though.


Really? I only remember doing it once
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Lukas_L99 wrote:
zoom wrote:Lukas responded twice, but he's so good, I'll let it stand. I only make exceptions like that for him and Garja!

I did remove a couple of completely bogus responses, though.


Really? I only remember doing it once
That's what Google says. All your grades are identical, too—unlike with the other people who submitted multiple entries.
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Since years I have been telling that Germany is too strong in age 3. And their age 3 should be made weaker, by making the age 3 cards weaker. But their age 2 is just weak. But all the changes that were made affected the early game and their age 3 was left untouched. Why not make the age 2 game of Germany stronger and the age 3 game weaker. Uhlans shouldn't have been made weaker. And bows should be stronger.
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Germany's kind of fine at the moment. Their Colonial really isn't that weak.
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german colonial is good because they can keep their opponent pinned in their base whilst shipping 6vills first
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They are op on land tp maps.
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just put 2sw,3sw,700g,700w, naegers and gg
need only 4 / 5 cards max
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Nah need the rdm 9 cav swing also so i guess 6 cards

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