EP7.1 Pre-tournament Balance Poll (Jan 2020)

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spanish gold and the unit shipment buffs were nice. unction and the lancer card its actually quite hard to make use off for the most part. spanish are probably about average or abit below idk
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Its not just civs that are unbalanced... Its the maps and gold,wood,food starts that also affect the civ alot. And not to mention treasures... This is why ao3 fails competitively. How can you ever balance a game where much of it is based on pure luck. If u want consistent results remove treasures completely and make starting resources fixed on every map.
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AraGun wrote:Its not just civs that are unbalanced... Its the maps and gold,wood,food starts that also affect the civ alot. And not to mention treasures... This is why ao3 fails competitively. How can you ever balance a game where much of it is based on pure luck. If u want consistent results remove treasures completely and make starting resources fixed on every map.
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@Garja stop theory crafting and go play spanish just to show us how strong spanish are. You are always like that, you talk a lot but where are the fact? Of course spanish gold are op in your hand, if you use moesbar spanish gold :D
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so spanish hype has died. and they back to bottom ? I think they not bad.
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lordraphael wrote:so spanish hype has died. and they back to bottom ? I think they not bad.
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Spanish have maybe too many unplayable mu, mean they are easy at couterpick.
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lordraphael wrote:so spanish hype has died. and they back to bottom ? I think they not bad.
Indeed, it seems a bit much. Many players have always had a tendency to exaggerate perceived strength or weakness, though, and we should note that the difference between civilizations is much closer, in this poll, than the previous one, which the graph on the right doesn't do a great job at conveying, while the numbers do.
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AraGun wrote:Its not just civs that are unbalanced... Its the maps and gold,wood,food starts that also affect the civ alot. And not to mention treasures... This is why ao3 fails competitively. How can you ever balance a game where much of it is based on pure luck. If u want consistent results remove treasures completely and make starting resources fixed on every map.
Crate starts, maps and treasures were certainly major issues, on RE.
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Le Hussard sur le toit wrote:
zoom wrote:
Le Hussard sur le toit wrote:Polls should always have a "I don't know/don't care option" if you want accurate results. It would overwhelmingly win many polls if it were included !
Every option is non-mandatory, now. If anyone doesn't want to answer a specific question, they should simply not respond to it.
However the number of "I don't know / don't care" answers can also be significant and it's good polling methodology to include it in any poll (be it about controversial topics such as politics or AOE3 balance, or about consensual ones like which country has the best cooking).
Good point—I agree!

Total respondents: 42

Missing responses:


Aztecs: 6
Sioux: 3
Spanish: 2
British, Germans, Indians, Iroquois, Japanese, Portuguese, Russians: 1
EP balance satisfaction: 1
Total: 19 out of 714 questions (~2.66%)

Bonus results:

Average confidence: 142/42 = ~3.381
Average balance satisfaction: 161/41 = ~3.927
Average overall satisfaction: 171/42 = ~4.07

Excellent stuff! Once again, thank you to everyone who responded to the poll!

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