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Why age 3 china is not nerf? Its not a consensus that they scale too strong age 3? Or its just me who don't know how play vs them?

I am at the point where i will refuse to play againt and this is the first time that happend to me (firt time since 2008).
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It was nerfed. Their whole army has 5% less hp than last patch.
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lol
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Chinese is the reverse Spanish; the more you nerf it, the stronger it grows.
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zoom wrote:Chinese is the reverse Spanish; the more you nerf it, the stronger it grows.
Now i have to make a meme out of this
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I already have.

What if we don't nerf British Allies to +0% hitpoints, like Cuckoo says, and instead nerf it to -10% hitpoints? That should do the trick!
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zoom wrote:I already have.

What if we don't nerf British Allies to +0% hitpoints, like Cuckoo says, and instead nerf it to -10% hitpoints? That should do the trick!
What about -10% hp and -10% attack? Make sure it scales off of upgraded stats too
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chronique wrote:Why age 3 china is not nerf? Its not a consensus that they scale too strong age 3? Or its just me who don't know how play vs them?

I am at the point where i will refuse to play againt and this is the first time that happend to me (firt time since 2008).
I suppose I should add that I'm happy to consider even more nerfs to Chinese, if there is relative consensus among players that it is warranted.

P.S. Buff Spanish!
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I dont think spain need to be buff, china rect so many civ age 3. They need to be, maybe, better vs rush and less broken age 3. I mean, they have only tier 0 age 3 shipement, all of them are insane in term of value, they have a monk who are unkillable and pop free discipline (litteraly) in the middle of the fight (wtf is that, on a rts game???), they can pop their broken shipement from any village, that mean you cant catch them (make them much op), and they have a factory age 3 (mean free macro).

What kind of civ have this type of advantage oriented in one direction? I know, Mitoe, you said russia is a no brain civ, but what kind of brain you need to have when your best option is basicly "ff, do nothing in your base, send broken shipement and push becouse your army are unkilable after 15 min"?

This civ have no strategical depth, oh sorry, sometime you can stay in your base much longer and go age 4, shipement are more broken :p .
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chronique wrote:I dont think spain need to be buff, china rect so many civ age 3. They need to be, maybe, better vs rush and less broken age 3. I mean, they have only tier 0 age 3 shipement, all of them are insane in term of value, they have a monk who are unkillable and pop free discipline (litteraly) in the middle of the fight (wtf is that, on a rts game???), they can pop their broken shipement from any village, that mean you cant catch them (make them much op), and they have a factory age 3 (mean free macro).

What kind of civ have this type of advantage oriented in one direction? I know, Mitoe, you said russia is a no brain civ, but what kind of brain you need to have when your best option is basicly "ff, do nothing in your base, send broken shipement and push becouse your army are unkilable after 15 min"?

This civ have no strategical depth, oh sorry, sometime you can stay in your base much longer and go age 4, shipement are more broken :p .
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chronique wrote:I dont think spain need to be buff, china rect so many civ age 3. They need to be, maybe, better vs rush and less broken age 3. I mean, they have only tier 0 age 3 shipement, all of them are insane in term of value, they have a monk who are unkillable and pop free discipline (litteraly) in the middle of the fight (wtf is that, on a rts game???), they can pop their broken shipement from any village, that mean you cant catch them (make them much op), and they have a factory age 3 (mean free macro).

What kind of civ have this type of advantage oriented in one direction? I know, Mitoe, you said russia is a no brain civ, but what kind of brain you need to have when your best option is basicly "ff, do nothing in your base, send broken shipement and push becouse your army are unkilable after 15 min"?

This civ have no strategical depth, oh sorry, sometime you can stay in your base much longer and go age 4, shipement are more broken :p .
China has more strategic depth than Spain, maybe you should try it
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Maybe spain have no strategical depth (something wrong imo) but they are not broken, that is a small difference.
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zoom wrote:Chinese is the reverse Spanish; the more you nerf it, the stronger it grows.
idiot logic
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zoom wrote:
chronique wrote:I dont think spain need to be buff, china rect so many civ age 3. They need to be, maybe, better vs rush and less broken age 3. I mean, they have only tier 0 age 3 shipement, all of them are insane in term of value, they have a monk who are unkillable and pop free discipline (litteraly) in the middle of the fight (wtf is that, on a rts game???), they can pop their broken shipement from any village, that mean you cant catch them (make them much op), and they have a factory age 3 (mean free macro).

What kind of civ have this type of advantage oriented in one direction? I know, Mitoe, you said russia is a no brain civ, but what kind of brain you need to have when your best option is basicly "ff, do nothing in your base, send broken shipement and push becouse your army are unkilable after 15 min"?

This civ have no strategical depth, oh sorry, sometime you can stay in your base much longer and go age 4, shipement are more broken :p .
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Makrokosmos12 wrote:
zoom wrote:Chinese is the reverse Spanish; the more you nerf it, the stronger it grows.
idiot logic
#eplogic
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I assume the salty moment :D. But i think i have some arguments. Graph will come pretty soon.
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chronique wrote:I dont think spain need to be buff, china rect so many civ age 3. They need to be, maybe, better vs rush and less broken age 3. I mean, they have only tier 0 age 3 shipement, all of them are insane in term of value, they have a monk who are unkillable and pop free discipline (litteraly) in the middle of the fight (wtf is that, on a rts game???), they can pop their broken shipement from any village, that mean you cant catch them (make them much op), and they have a factory age 3 (mean free macro).

What kind of civ have this type of advantage oriented in one direction? I know, Mitoe, you said russia is a no brain civ, but what kind of brain you need to have when your best option is basicly "ff, do nothing in your base, send broken shipement and push becouse your army are unkilable after 15 min"?

This civ have no strategical depth, oh sorry, sometime you can stay in your base much longer and go age 4, shipement are more broken :p .
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#trainableManchu
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Shittest civ in every rts game ever
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Qosashvili93 wrote:Shittest civ in every rts game ever
no i think they are good
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
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Qosashvili93 wrote:Shittest civ in every rts game ever
Must have never played against Protoss
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Are the new banner armies China has used much?
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China can be okey with a small age 2 buff and (not so) small nerf age 3. But stuff need to be remove (like the free rdm disciple for exemple).
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Superfly47 wrote:Are the new banner armies China has used much?
black flag is damn good, mongolian just adds a bit of flexibility in age 2
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
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n0el wrote:
Qosashvili93 wrote:Shittest civ in every rts game ever
Must have never played against Protoss
Second shittest civ ever

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