Patch Balances?!

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Hey,


i like the ESOC Patch very much, but the main reason are the maps, which are great, for 1v1 rated games also for team games. Very good job!

My question now is, why u made so less balances? All OP Civs are still OP, these balances are way to less. Why u just didnt made same balances then in FP 1.2? This would be awesome?

FP 1.2 balances with Garja maps rated etc... and this shouldnt be much work? Maybe we can do a user vote if the community would agree to this?


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enjoy2play wrote:Hey,


i like the ESOC Patch very much, but the main reason are the maps, which are great, for 1v1 rated games also for team games. Very good job!

My question now is, why u made so less balances? All OP Civs are still OP, these balances are way to less. Why u just didnt made same balances then in FP 1.2? This would be awesome?

FP 1.2 balances with Garja maps rated etc... and this shouldnt be much work? Maybe we can do a user vote if the community would agree to this?


Thanks

FP 1.2 ultimately standardised all the civs whereas esoc patch wants to keep the uniqueness of all civs. When you say the OP civs are still OP, on RE patch iro and otto were way above all the other civs and with the nerfs they have become much more balanced. Ports have also become playable(maybe too strong on water maps). The wall nerf is an excellent change that almost everyone likes. The only mistake with the balance changes really was the addition of 2*20% bank cards for dutch which made no difference for 1v1 but made them OP in team.
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And why isnt otto now not way above all other civs on most maps? abus are still way to op, Gends are still to top, china reform units to op, 20 range goons to op. ashis to op and to fast etc...
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N3O_Jerom wrote:and huh the balance is actually pretty good
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enjoy2play wrote:And why isnt otto now not way above all other civs on most maps? abus are still way to op, Gends are still to top, china reform units to op, 20 range goons to op. ashis to op and to fast etc...

Garia doesn't play team.
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the things you mention are primarly a problem in team games although they are inherently op they usually dont really come into effect in 1v1s. Nonetheless the problems with old han and genitours are known and going to be adressed for sure in the near future (after tourney i guess ).
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enjoy2play wrote:And why isnt otto now not way above all other civs on most maps?

-10hp on jans, -15% ROF on abus, 4 mams, more balanced maps and they were overrated to begin with
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lordraphael wrote:the things you mention are primarly a problem in team games although they are inherently op they usually dont really come into effect in 1v1s. Nonetheless the problems with old han and genitours are known and going to be adressed for sure in the near future (after tourney i guess ).

Meh, those are the things that give some civs a reason to go age 4 for a chance. No nerf uniqueness pls.
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"uniqueness", nice to say about things which ruins most of the good games
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Jerom wrote:
lordraphael wrote:the things you mention are primarly a problem in team games although they are inherently op they usually dont really come into effect in 1v1s. Nonetheless the problems with old han and genitours are known and going to be adressed for sure in the near future (after tourney i guess ).

Meh, those are the things that give some civs a reason to go age 4 for a chance. No nerf uniqueness pls.

It's not like they are a little too strong. They are simply broken.
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OP units dont ruin the game. All civs have one op unit in lategame.
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Garja wrote:OP units dont ruin the game. All civs have one op unit in lategame.

You don't think that old han needs nerfing?
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if so them yumis need nerfing as well
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A lot of people like to talk shit about ASFP without knowing a damn thing really. At least part of the criticism of the patch is true.
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The short and sweet answer to the OP would be this: Only one small balance patch has been released. Please be patient and expect improved balance in the near future.
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Old han is on a different scale compared to all other OP units. But honestly even there if we talk about treaty or team there is stuff that can beat it.
In any case the rant of OP units ruining team games is unjustified. If you accept to play team then you know there will be OP stuff.
AS FP definetlly nerfed all the sharp stuff in the game but that's exactly why it ended up being a bit repetitive after some time.
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Garja wrote:In any case the rant of OP units ruining team games is unjustified. If you accept to play team then you know there will be OP stuff.



lol. im nut sure how many nice 3v3s we had until china is age 4 and destroys just 1v2 in running over the map.
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as I said old han is quite another level of opness
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Garja wrote:OP units dont ruin the game. All civs have one op unit in lategame.

Germany not really, aztec not really, dutch not really, there are a few more I can think of
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ovi12 wrote:
Garja wrote:OP units dont ruin the game. All civs have one op unit in lategame.

Germany not really, aztec not really, dutch not really, there are a few more I can think of

aztec have eagles and dutch have 1 pop ruyters. I think germans probably have the weakest late game millitary in the game though.
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britishmusketeer wrote:
ovi12 wrote:
Garja wrote:OP units dont ruin the game. All civs have one op unit in lategame.

Germany not really, aztec not really, dutch not really, there are a few more I can think of

aztec have eagles and dutch have 1 pop ruyters. I think germans probably have the weakest late game millitary in the game though.

1 pop ruyters are mostly very meh though.
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aztec have eagles and dutch have 1 pop ruyters. I think germans probably have the weakest late game millitary in the game though.

1 pop ruyters are mostly very meh though.

dutch ruyters arent that grweat
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150 ruyters isn't bad. Also skirms.
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ye, hf with dutch units against french/jap/china.


anyway, this patch just sux and this game is dead.
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lol
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enjoy2play wrote:ye, hf with dutch units against french/jap/china.


anyway, this patch just sux and this game is dead.


This is definitely a well-thought out argument here.

"no listen to me 100%? well fuck you all. your patch sucks and ded gaem. i don't need to debate my points or bring up arguments and one single thread proves absolutely that your patch is stupid"

calm the fuck down, seriously
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I just hope DE is not going to implement all of the EP changes. Right now it is a big clusterfuck.

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