Will Dutch get fixed in the new EP update?

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Re: Will Dutch get fixed in the new EP update?

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IP Man wrote:Currently, if they make 4 banks, they have 4 vill shipments in age 1 and they also have access to 6 banks from start which is plain stupid.
Also, i dont understand why age 1 card gives better bonus than age 4 card (there are 2 age 1 cards too).. :huh:

What they really needed is to get the xp build bounty for banks increased or reverted to be the same as nilla, not to get loads of buffs which are uncessery and which make them a civ which nobody will agree to play against.

banks cost so much dawg who cares
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Trapandy wrote:
IP Man wrote:Currently, if they make 4 banks, they have 4 vill shipments in age 1 and they also have access to 6 banks from start which is plain stupid.
Also, i dont understand why age 1 card gives better bonus than age 4 card (there are 2 age 1 cards too).. :huh:

What they really needed is to get the xp build bounty for banks increased or reverted to be the same as nilla, not to get loads of buffs which are uncessery and which make them a civ which nobody will agree to play against.

banks cost so much dawg who cares

This was a 2016 post lol.
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good ol EP 3 dutch
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Wasn't EP4 Dutch when they were broken? Maybe it was EP3 don't really remember
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Yeah 6 banks and the bank cards gave +20% gather rate. Was gud patch.
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zoi already fixed everything
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Mitoe wrote:Wasn't EP4 Dutch when they were broken? Maybe it was EP3 don't really remember

Dutch have been broken for like 3 patches.
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Dutch are still too strong in team, but in 1v1 they're fine imo
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i honestly think theyre fine in 2v2, no cav upgrades and no anticav age 2 and no 2 falc shipment are quite big flaws
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If they have a mate with decent anti cav I think it's very hard to pressure the dutch team since they have skirms. While in 1v1 you can usually pressure dutch in colo.
Not having 2 falcs is an issue but they make up for it by having a big spam in early fort.
Honestly whenever I'm playing 2v2 with Mitoe and he's dutch he can carry the game, even in our tourney game vs you he carried and we lost cause I didn't make huss till too late and cause I was otto.
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With 5 banks Dutch outgathers easy in midgame and civs like Fre take a lot to outgather. All the other advantages like 2 cannons, better hand cav, tempo from colonial pressure, etc. are almost nullified by the nature of the team game. So Dutch can essentially go full greed with eco/army ups and their advantage last for long. In that time frame they basically win the game so being outscaled later doesn't come into play that much.
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Yeah right, they just mass more in early fort. The double rax carded skirm spam is just really scary. Only civ that spams as much (or more) while also having falcs is brits, but they're fortress later anyway. And well brits are also super strong anyway
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Yea watching the team tourney, mitoe had age 4 skirms in age 3 and age 5 skirms in age 4 lol

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