Fuck you we had to meet in small finals if not finals
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
Jap vs Brits kinda bad MU imo. Brits have a better boom (wood for free vills via houses is better than shrines), is less raidable early game until hunts close to base run out and have much more mass. Lbows also > yumis.
Sure Japs have better units potentially, but if Brits play the contain and shrine sieging game right, Jap should just lose.
A good indicator of this is the recalc eco pop and military pop in the last game. Mitoe had more eco AND more army throughout. Now people will say Lukas needed to build more shrines, but it aint that easy, then you can get swamped early on.
Jap only win this via lucky ashi raids, cheese aggro wins if brits don't prepare for it and FB or maybe with full kynesie.
Hawk_Girl wrote:can you imagine a tourney with only euro civs. lukas would be so low ranked lel
He would perform much better than he did here. Playing Aztec is a 10% handicap, and it's just too much at this level.
Haha aren't you tired of being that much biased
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
Astaroth wrote:Jap vs Brits kinda bad MU imo. Brits have a better boom (wood for free vills via houses is better than shrines), is less raidable early game until hunts close to base run out and have much more mass. Lbows also > yumis.
Sure Japs have better units potentially, but if Brits play the contain and shrine sieging game right, Jap should just lose.
A good indicator of this is the recalc eco pop and military pop in the last game. Mitoe had more eco AND more army throughout. Now people will say Lukas needed to build more shrines, but it aint that easy, then you can get swamped early on.
Jap only win this via lucky ashi raids, cheese aggro wins if brits don't prepare for it and FB or maybe with full kynesie.
i agree with your sentiment however don't give me bs saying brit is ever less raidable
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
With regards to shrines. Jap is the only civ that is raidable from early colonial all over the map.
Sure brits are more raidable in and around their base, but they can camp their hunt with their army for a while. Obviously in mid game Jap has the advantage here.
Losing a few shrines here and there isnt horrible, but when Brits are already outbooming you, it sucks to lose another couple of shrines around the map to 5 pike while their eco is untouched.
@Astaroth it takes 1 shot to kill a vil, not so for shrines. jap is at liberty to place his shrines where he sees fit. i'm not saying that brit doesn't win jap, i'm just saying that jap being more raidable is a stupid thing to say
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
Early game, even a good Jap should lose a couple of shrines to Brits (if he shrine booms; if he doesn't, his eco will be weak anyway). A good brit should not lose any vills early on, until the closer hunts run out.
This means Brits can hurt Jap eco early on, Japs can't hurt Brit eco early on. This makes Jap more raidable early game.
this does not mean that they are more raidable, that's just how the mu is often played
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
Yeah, and in my book, killing eco=raiding. But I guess it's pointless to discuss semantics if we both agree that Brits can hurt Jap eco early on (shrines) while Japs can't really hurt Brit eco early on.
gh0st wrote:Ok, so back on topic, lukas got smashed pretty hard huh?
Yup, don't know how people analyse games, is disheartening to see so many people believed Mitoe would lose. Winning 4-0 was always debatable though. Nearly 45% of the bets predicted Lukas to win which is far too close of a result to be true except in rare cases.
Astaroth wrote:Jap vs Brits kinda bad MU imo. Brits have a better boom (wood for free vills via houses is better than shrines), is less raidable early game until hunts close to base run out and have much more mass. Lbows also > yumis.
Sure Japs have better units potentially, but if Brits play the contain and shrine sieging game right, Jap should just lose.
A good indicator of this is the recalc eco pop and military pop in the last game. Mitoe had more eco AND more army throughout. Now people will say Lukas needed to build more shrines, but it aint that easy, then you can get swamped early on.
Jap only win this via lucky ashi raids, cheese aggro wins if brits don't prepare for it and FB or maybe with full kynesie.