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[princeofcarthage]

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Not sure I follow why should the whole team be punished if one fucks up. So we'll resolve an unfair situation with another unfair one? I don't think that's a sound argument.

you mean that by making SKG points not count, that would be considered (unfair) punishment to the rest of the SKG team (those that didn't leave)? If so, as a SKG player myself I can say that that would be bs. We are not achieving anything this epl. So I'd rather see fairness for the remaining teams,

Taking out the points won't change anything so I don't see the point.

What? Ofc it does. Whether or not NWC has 16 wins, and MDS has 10 wins, or NWC (7) + MDS (3) makes a difference?

Even if you discount SKG games, NN, Bigs, are practically out. MDS still needs 15-10 as it needs now, CMC still guaranteed a playoff spot. So yes nothing relevant changes, I don't think how you end up on table +5 or +7 is relevant.

well if MDS needs 2 less wins with SKG points being excluded ofc that's relevant. We will see at the end of the week if they still qualify, but if they barely don't cause of a 2 point difference due to SKG's inconsistency that would suck.

What are you talking about? I just told you regardless of whether SKG score is calculated or not MDS still needs exact same score (15-10) to qualify

[amiggo1999]

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Not sure I follow why should the whole team be punished if one fucks up. So we'll resolve an unfair situation with another unfair one? I don't think that's a sound argument.

you mean that by making SKG points not count, that would be considered (unfair) punishment to the rest of the SKG team (those that didn't leave)? If so, as a SKG player myself I can say that that would be bs. We are not achieving anything this epl. So I'd rather see fairness for the remaining teams,

Taking out the points won't change anything so I don't see the point.

What? Ofc it does. Whether or not NWC has 16 wins, and MDS has 10 wins, or NWC (7) + MDS (3) makes a difference?

Even if you discount SKG games, NN, Bigs, are practically out. MDS still needs 15-10 as it needs now, CMC still guaranteed a playoff spot. So yes nothing relevant changes, I don't think how you end up on table +5 or +7 is relevant.

well if MDS needs 2 less wins with SKG points being excluded ofc that's relevant. We will see at the end of the week if they still qualify, but if they barely don't cause of a 2 point difference due to SKG's inconsistency that would suck.

What are you talking about? I just told you regardless of whether SKG score is calculated or not MDS still needs exact same score (15-10) to qualify

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MDS went 16-9(+7) vs SKG. NWC went 17-8(+9) vs SKG. That puts MDS at +8 and NWC at +2 recalulated. So no, they don't need the same score to qualify with/without taking SKG points into account.

[Vinyanyérë]

Every MDS-NWC game is a 2-point swing whereas SKG games wrt the MDS/NWC standings are only one point, so the SKG games end up not mattering for the standings.

To put it clearly, MDS has to go 15-10 for the final score to be 69-69 and MDS winning the tie break. If you subtract 16 from MDS and 17 from NWC, you get 53-52 which MDS wins. But if MDS goes 14-11, it's 52-53 which MDS loses.

[princeofcarthage]

Well Duck said it, but it doesn't matter cuz of simply qualify or not qualify there is a middle step of tie. Technically you are right the score matters but in this case 15-10 is required for tie which MDS wins, in other MDS require 15-10 to straight qualify.

[deleted_user]

If SKG matches are not counted, MDS is 38-37, NWC is 42-33. Currently (before week 5) it is MDS at 54-46 and NWC at 59-41. Because each MDS game is a two point swing, playing vs NWC, there is no difference between the 4 and 5 win differences between the two teams in either scenario.

A 14-11 Week 5 result for MDS in either case does not qualify (52 wins vs 53, or 68 wins vs 70). A 15-10 Week 5 result for MDS in both cases qualifies (53 wins vs 52, or 69 wins vs 69 wins, MDS wins the tie breaker).

[amiggo1999]

ok, I see