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aaryngend wrote:Anyone noticed that Colonial age got renamed?? :ohmy: Handelszeitalter, so basically the trading age.
I guess being named Colonial age was too much of a reference of the colonies that the europeans installed in foreign continents..
I always thought that "colonial age" does not really apply to the expansion civs anyway...
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Graphics suck a bit, too much cartoon.
Sounds feel very different, and they feel worse.
Some things cant really be read properly because the contrast between the WHITE 1 on top of a coloured Incan flag is horse shit.
Villagers dont know what to do when they cut a tree, prepare for some idle vills.

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aaryngend wrote:Did anyone notice that the 'Colonial Age' got renamed?? :ohmy: Handelszeitalter, so basically the trading age.
The german name in the original aoe3 was Kolonialzeitalter.
I guess being named Colonial age was too much of a reference of the colonies that the europeans installed in foreign continents..
Well that really doesnt matter does it.

Regarding the age up politicians i dont think there will be different cost options from what i can say by the vids ive watched so far
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Why do both new civs have a house bonus, especially since we already have two old civs with house bonuses?
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blasdg wrote:Graphics suck a bit, too much cartoon.
Sounds feel very different, and they feel worse.
Some things cant really be read properly because the contrast between the WHITE 1 on top of a coloured Incan flag is horse shit.
Villagers dont know what to do when they cut a tree, prepare for some idle vills.

Other than that I massively enjoyed the beta.
what does that last point mean
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blackout wrote:Regarding the age up politicians i dont think there will be different cost options from what i can say by the vids ive watched so far
Depends, 95% of the costs to age-up seem to be the same, but there is one politician to the 2nd age which costs 900 Food instead of 800. Who knows how different the Revolution age-ups are gonna be ?
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aaryngend wrote:
blackout wrote:Regarding the age up politicians i dont think there will be different cost options from what i can say by the vids ive watched so far
Depends, 95% of the costs to age-up seem to be the same, but there is one politician to the 2nd age which costs 900 Food instead of 800. Who knows how different the Revolution age-ups are gonna be ?
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aaryngend wrote:Did anyone notice that the 'Colonial Age' got renamed?? :ohmy: Handelszeitalter, so basically the trading age.
The german name in the original aoe3 was Kolonialzeitalter.
I guess being named Colonial age was too much of a reference of the colonies that the europeans installed in foreign continents..
they should have implemented the idea that I proposed a long time ago:

age 2 should be named fortress age, since building forts was the main form of European expansion in Asia and the Americas in the 15th-16th centuries. Most early settlements were forts, not colonial towns.

age 3 should be the colonial age, when you had mass populations of settlers coming to colonize the lands held by forts.

As for replacing colonial age with trading age... that seems sort of strange. Isn't that sort of sanitizing history? No one is claiming that colonization was good, but it definitely happened. Also if colonial age is bad for glorifying colonialism, why is imperial age still fine? (or is it, idk)
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Yep another political change, told you.
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seems more accurate to not be the colonial age, since the would be colonies are fighting over the land
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AOE3 is about a historical period that starts with the Age of Discovery and ends with the last phase of colonial empires. The names of AOE3 maps show clearly this is about the colonisation of America by European settlers (Plymouth - one of the first AOE3 maps made, New England, Carolina -- these were among the first colonies established by the Brits in America). That's how that country was created, by colonisation, and later by merging all those colonies into a federation of states.

Age of Fortress should not have been in the game, because it's about medieval times, so it's about something that didn't happen in America, only in Europe. There's no medieval fortress in America, South America or China, only in Europe, because the Middle Ages only existed in Europe. But geographic exploration and colonisation by European settlers are the most defining features of that part of history in North America.
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Honestly who cares? The names of the ages never really made sense relative to what was going on and still don't after the changes. There is no name that can encapsulate everything that can occur in each age. They're merely there because there has to be a name, so things are picked that go along with the ethos of the game overall.
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so seeing a swedes game play video it seems they have an age 2 artillery shipment. Lol that is going to be some interesting anti russia plays
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Haha, new revolts incoming!
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WOLOLO is back bois , prepare for all the memes and all the combacks hahahha
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The sound effects when selecting a card or card decks and age up politicans seem like they are straight out of a Mario game..
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helln00 wrote:WOLOLO is back bois , prepare for all the memes and all the combacks hahahha
edit: lol inca can revolt and go full skirm cannons.
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I wonder if it will be possible to make an "Original AOE3 sound mod"
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Dolan wrote: so it's about something that didn't happen in America, only in Europe. There's no medieval fortress in America, South America or China, only in Europe, because the Middle Ages only existed in Europe.
the Portuguese and Spanish in the 16th-17th century would like to have a word with you, about this idea that forts are only medieval and were not built in...

America,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_San_Pedro

Asia,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_San_Juan_(Joara)

or Africa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Jesus
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welp this is going to piss EP people off more than even the lack of gold gathering for sioux....... the teepees has a gather aura
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Squamiger wrote:
Dolan wrote: so it's about something that didn't happen in America, only in Europe. There's no medieval fortress in America, South America or China, only in Europe, because the Middle Ages only existed in Europe.
the Portuguese and Spanish in the 16th-17th century would like to have a word with you, about this idea that forts are only medieval and were not built in...

America,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_San_Pedro

Asia,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_San_Juan_(Joara)

or Africa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Jesus
Forts were used in the US during world war II (think pearl harbor) and I'm might still be used today(cba to google it). I'm sure they were used in the rest of the world until at least world war II
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Squamiger wrote:
Dolan wrote: so it's about something that didn't happen in America, only in Europe. There's no medieval fortress in America, South America or China, only in Europe, because the Middle Ages only existed in Europe.
the Portuguese and Spanish in the 16th-17th century would like to have a word with you, about this idea that forts are only medieval and were not built in...

America,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_San_Pedro

Asia,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_San_Juan_(Joara)

or Africa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Jesus
Those were built by colonists, who exported Euro architecture to those places. They didn't appear as a result of a medieval age taking place in the Philippines, Africa or North America. The Middle Ages (aka medieval age) only existed in Europe.
Just like the Islamic Golden Age only existed in the Middle east and North Africa, nowhere else.

If you want to take things literally, sure, there were some forts built by Europeans in North America, so you could call the age in which they were built an "age of fortress".
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Dolan wrote:
Squamiger wrote:
Dolan wrote: so it's about something that didn't happen in America, only in Europe. There's no medieval fortress in America, South America or China, only in Europe, because the Middle Ages only existed in Europe.
the Portuguese and Spanish in the 16th-17th century would like to have a word with you, about this idea that forts are only medieval and were not built in...

America,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_San_Pedro

Asia,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_San_Juan_(Joara)

or Africa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Jesus
Those were built by colonists, who exported Euro architecture to those places. They didn't appear as a result of a medieval age taking place in the Philippines, Africa or North America. The Middle Ages (aka medieval age) only existed in Europe.
Just like the Islamic Golden Age only existed in the Middle east and North Africa, nowhere else.

If you want to take things literally, sure, there were some forts built by Europeans in North America, so you could call the age in which they were built an "age of fortress".
yes my point is that European forts built around the world were the defining feature of early 16th century expansion. The masses of colonial settlers came after, in the 17th-18th-19th centuries.
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But we only get acess to fort wagons in age 3. so i think it would be a little misleading and weird naming age 2 fortress age for that reason. Otherwise it would make good sense.

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