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it also has nothing to do with George Floyd because literally no one has complained about this and it's related in no way
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giveuanxiety wrote:Unfortunately it seems like something they were forced to do. It's pretty clear that its going to make those civs less fun to play. Hopefully it is just slightly bad and not completely broken.
Forced by who, and also how is this mechanic you know nothing about "pretty clear" to be worse
Forced by the native community and the SJW.
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we really need asinine shit in EVERY thread don't we
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Cometk wrote:we really need asinine shit in EVERY thread don't we
This thread was created for this exact reason honestly.
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giveuanxiety wrote:The change would not be done if George Floyd never died. His death raised a change in society. That's why their also working on renaming american football teams like the redskins. (I never said this was a bad thing to make these changes. Im just stating what lead to these changes being made)
tbh i think you're projecting here ngl
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POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
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I could be wrong, but it seems strange that they would fix the historical inaccuracies for those 2 civs but then ignore the other 12 civs.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:
giveuanxiety wrote:Unfortunately it seems like something they were forced to do. It's pretty clear that its going to make those civs less fun to play. Hopefully it is just slightly bad and not completely broken.
Forced by who, and also how is this mechanic you know nothing about "pretty clear" to be worse
Forced by the native community and the SJW.
How do you know this?
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giveuanxiety wrote:I could be wrong,
Yep
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it's definitely a stretch to say the developers were FORCED by anyone to make certain changes instead of ascribing the changes to the more plausible assumption that the developers SOUGHT to make changes to more accurately reflect the civilizations portrayed
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lol it's a little weird you saying I'm wrong and you're 100% right without knowing the situation. Neither of us can confirm were 100% right.
Lasol wrote: :hmm: just Saw a YouTube video with giveyouanexiaty. He Said check youre stove, if you Want to improve youre aoe3 skills.

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giveuanxiety wrote:lol it's a little weird you saying I'm wrong and you're 100% right without knowing the situation. Neither of us can confirm were 100% right.
Well I'm just going off what the developers have said, whereas you proposed some alternate theory with no evidence that also doesn't really matter at all, so it's weird to assume those two positions are the same
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
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Forced by the native community and the SJW.
How do you know this?
Assumptions, I don't know who exactly forced these changes, maybe it's just some native devs, but I doubt it. I know that it's political though.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
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How do you know this?
Assumptions, I don't know who forced these changes. I know that it's political though.
How do you know this?
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giveuanxiety wrote:lol it's a little weird you saying I'm wrong and you're 100% right without knowing the situation. Neither of us can confirm were 100% right.
i hope you realize that you sound very conspiracy theorist---
you make some very big jump connecting unrelated things and then say that is weird that other people don't see it your way, saying how they cannot prove the opposite
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
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The SJWs raided the studio and held the developers hostage, threatening them with being cancelled, if they didn't change the way gold-mining worked for the Native Civilizations :shock:
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Ehh anyone else seeing what is going on in the world the last few months? Constant protest and riots. Talk about changing sports names, movies and books.
Lasol wrote: :hmm: just Saw a YouTube video with giveyouanexiaty. He Said check youre stove, if you Want to improve youre aoe3 skills.

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harcha wrote:
giveuanxiety wrote:lol it's a little weird you saying I'm wrong and you're 100% right without knowing the situation. Neither of us can confirm were 100% right.
i hope you realize that you sound very conspiracy theorist---
you make some very big jump connecting unrelated things and then say that is weird that other people don't see it your way, saying how they cannot prove the opposite
I wouldn't say that it's directly linked to Georges Floyd (though it totally could), maybe GUA has more info than us. But it's pretty obvious that it is for political reasons, and not for accuracy, as we've explained several times.
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giveuanxiety wrote:Ehh anyone else seeing what is going on in the world the last few months? Constant protest and riots. Talk about changing sports names, movies and books.
from outside looking in america is doing the usual american things. you should realize that you've always lived in a country which is run by crazies
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POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
harcha wrote:
giveuanxiety wrote:lol it's a little weird you saying I'm wrong and you're 100% right without knowing the situation. Neither of us can confirm were 100% right.
i hope you realize that you sound very conspiracy theorist---
you make some very big jump connecting unrelated things and then say that is weird that other people don't see it your way, saying how they cannot prove the opposite
I wouldn't say that it's directly linked to Georges Floyd (though it totally could), maybe GUA has more info than us. But it's pretty obvious that it is for political reasons, and not for accuracy, as we've explained several times.
How is it not for accuracy when it makes the portrayal of the civilizations more accurate? :hmm:
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giveuanxiety wrote:Ehh anyone else seeing what is going on in the world the last few months? Constant protest and riots. Talk about changing sports names, movies and books.
Ye, exactly. That's what I was saying in the other thread. They decided to remove mining from aoe3 for native civs just like statues and paintings were destroyed, high schools, movies and books renamed etc.
Let's be honest, this would never have happened 10 years ago. It's pointless to discuss whether it's right or wrong, because people have a strong opinion about it and will never agree, but please don't call us conspirationists while this is quite obvious.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
harcha wrote:
giveuanxiety wrote:lol it's a little weird you saying I'm wrong and you're 100% right without knowing the situation. Neither of us can confirm were 100% right.
i hope you realize that you sound very conspiracy theorist---
you make some very big jump connecting unrelated things and then say that is weird that other people don't see it your way, saying how they cannot prove the opposite
I wouldn't say that it's directly linked to Georges Floyd (though it totally could), maybe GUA has more info than us. But it's pretty obvious that it is for political reasons, and not for accuracy, as we've explained several times.
again, i just think they didn't want to repackage someone elses work if they didn't agree with the content. so they decided to change the content. you can argue about the motivations of developers, i don't really care
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POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
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Cometk wrote:
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I wouldn't say that it's directly linked to Georges Floyd (though it totally could), maybe GUA has more info than us. But it's pretty obvious that it is for political reasons, and not for accuracy, as we've explained several times.
How is it not for accuracy when it makes the civilizations portrayed more accurately? :hmm:
The civ is portrayed more accurately, but that's secondary. Please don't start with your whataboutism again, you know that only natives were changed, and not all the european flags which are wrong, nor the unit inaccuracies, because natives got persecuted, and not europeans.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
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How is it not for accuracy when it makes the civilizations portrayed more accurately? :hmm:
The civ is portrayed more accurately, but that's secondary. Please don't start with your whataboutism again, you know that only natives were changed, and not all the european flags which are wrong, nor the unit inaccuracies, because natives got persecuted, and not europeans.
Let's say you are correct. Why does that matter?
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
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How is it not for accuracy when it makes the civilizations portrayed more accurately? :hmm:
The civ is portrayed more accurately, but that's secondary. Please don't start with your whataboutism again, you know that only natives were changed, and not all the european flags which are wrong, nor the unit inaccuracies, because natives got persecuted, and not europeans.
i think that is primary, and what you're projecting is probably secondary
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