New and Improved Maps in DE

[TNT333]

What kind of maps are u looking forward to in DE?? Do u think it will balance the RE maps for DE?? Are some EP maps also gonna be in DE??

[forgrin]

They'd have to be pretty dumb to not at least release with the most popular EP maps as a standard set, and/or release new, balanced maps (since we're getting new civs I think new maps are almost guaranteed).

Tbh the maps are a solid 70-80% of the reason balance is better on EP.

[Squamiger]

i want the entire EP maps pack, but I could see them also maybe releasing some historical geography maps, like a Mexico/Mesoamerica map, a Japan map, etc

[n0el]

From the videos released it looked like some ESOC maps were added to the game.

[bobabu]

From the videos released it looked like some ESOC maps were added to the game.

Yes, some of the shots clearly show esoc maps. I hope they didn't fix create spawns though. I would also like a bit more randomness on Esoc maps. These days I like Age of Empires 2 more because the spawns are a bit more random. Just like in other games, the creators always wanted randomness to be a factor. Let's not forget Bruce Shelly wanted the maps to be different each time you play. A creator philosophy that kind of got lost in Esoc Maps.

[n0el]

From the videos released it looked like some ESOC maps were added to the game.

Yes, some of the shots clearly show esoc maps. I hope they didn't fix create spawns though. I would also like a bit more randomness on Esoc maps. These days I like Age of Empires 2 more because the spawns are a bit more random. Just like in other games, the creators always wanted randomness to be a factor. Let's not forget Bruce Shelly wanted the maps to be different each time you play. A creator philosophy that kind of got lost in Esoc Maps.

What do crate spawns have to do with maps?

[howlingwolfpaw]

the screenshots on the steam site look like all new location types.

[drsingh]

Can they just take the maps without permission from map creators...
Or was there a collaboration with esoc?

[BrookG]

From the videos released it looked like some ESOC maps were added to the game.

Not really. Unless I missed something, there was Yucatan and a map resembling Gran Chaco but without tps or llamas. Plus the ground tiles were all green, instead of yellow/orange.

Can they just take the maps without permission from map creators...
Or was there a collaboration with esoc?

I am as well interested in how this was communicated and handled.

[EAGLEMUT]

From the videos released it looked like some ESOC maps were added to the game.

Yes, some of the shots clearly show esoc maps. I hope they didn't fix create spawns though. I would also like a bit more randomness on Esoc maps. These days I like Age of Empires 2 more because the spawns are a bit more random. Just like in other games, the creators always wanted randomness to be a factor. Let's not forget Bruce Shelly wanted the maps to be different each time you play. A creator philosophy that kind of got lost in Esoc Maps.

Let's not forget Bruce Shelly said AoE3 was a huge mistake. I guess we should all blindly follow his philosophy and uninstall the game then
Anyway, most players don't want less balanced maps and less balanced starting crates. It just sucks to play at a disadvantage right from the start.

Can they just take the maps without permission from map creators...
Or was there a collaboration with esoc?

I am as well interested in how this was communicated and handled.

I don't think anyone's gonna tell you, because of NDAs.

[BrookG]

Can they just take the maps without permission from map creators...
Or was there a collaboration with esoc?

I am as well interested in how this was communicated and handled.

I don't think anyone's gonna tell you, because of NDAs.

Not necessarily now, but upon release it can definitely raise a copyrights debate

[wardyb1]

Probably hard to have much of a claim when the map is created in the game itself.

[bobabu]

From the videos released it looked like some ESOC maps were added to the game.

Yes, some of the shots clearly show esoc maps. I hope they didn't fix create spawns though. I would also like a bit more randomness on Esoc maps. These days I like Age of Empires 2 more because the spawns are a bit more random. Just like in other games, the creators always wanted randomness to be a factor. Let's not forget Bruce Shelly wanted the maps to be different each time you play. A creator philosophy that kind of got lost in Esoc Maps.

Let's not forget Bruce Shelly said AoE3 was a huge mistake. I guess we should all blindly follow his philosophy and uninstall the game then
Anyway, most players don't want less balanced maps and less balanced starting crates. It just sucks to play at a disadvantage right from the start.

Can they just take the maps without permission from map creators...
Or was there a collaboration with esoc?

I am as well interested in how this was communicated and handled.

I don't think anyone's gonna tell you, because of NDAs.

Not the game itself was a mistake but to sell in as an Age of Empires title.

[musketeer925]

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Can they just take the maps without permission from map creators...
Or was there a collaboration with esoc?

I am as well interested in how this was communicated and handled.

I don't think anyone's gonna tell you, because of NDAs.

Not necessarily now, but upon release it can definitely raise a copyrights debate

I don't think so. Pretty sure the license agreement covers that Microsoft had rights to any mods/maps/etc created for the game.

[bobabu]

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Can they just take the maps without permission from map creators...
Or was there a collaboration with esoc?

I am as well interested in how this was communicated and handled.

I don't think anyone's gonna tell you, because of NDAs.

Not necessarily now, but upon release it can definitely raise a copyrights debate

I don't think so. Pretty sure the license agreement covers that Microsoft had rights to any mods/maps/etc created for the game.

Well, I remember blizzard vs valve on dota

[harcha]

if DE doesn't bring FREE NEW MAPS CIVS MODS+++ i will be disappointed

[Squamiger]

Would it be possible to make a Map Creator option in DE that simplifies map making a lot, so people like me who don’t know how to code could just whip up a map in scenario editor and it would convert into a playable random map? That would be cool

[EAGLEMUT]

Would it be possible to make a Map Creator option in DE that simplifies map making a lot, so people like me who don’t know how to code could just whip up a map in scenario editor and it would convert into a playable random map? That would be cool

No, maps are random/dynamic, so you have to use scripting to define all the dynamicness. There's no easy way around that.

[look]

im just waiting for a new experience when watching record games