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The future of ESO and Defintive Edition Servers

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How much does Microsoft pay annually to keep up the ESO-Servers?
And how will the costs compare to the new Definitive Servers?
I am assuming the new servers will cost much more since the game won't be p2p anymore.
What does that mean for the support of eso and the definitive edition in the future? Since the cost of ESO was lower, I doubt that the definitive edition servers will be up for 15 years as it is the case for the ESO servers.
At the same time though I'm expecting costs for server maintenance to be going down in the coming years.
Would be interesting to hear from someone with some insights.
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That's an interesting thing to consider.
Since the DE servers are doing more stuff and they're all over the world, I would agree they should also cost more to maintain.
What does that mean for the support of eso
Apparently, not much. ESO will continue to keep running as it did before, funnily enough probably more stable as there will be less players there (and most of agecomm will get shut down, which might help too).
I doubt that the definitive edition servers will be up for 15 years as it is the case for the ESO servers.
I'm not sure that seems so unrealistic. The other side of the coin is that the DEs are looking to be pretty popular, and server infrastructure is shared between all DEs. The question kind of becomes; are they gonna shut down all DEs within the next 15 years? That actually seems rather unlikely to me right now, with AoE2 being like top2 RTS game worldwide.
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It's also pretty likely that AoE4 might share the same server infrastructure, and I expect MS wants a pretty good lifetime out of that game.
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When the day comes that DE server shutsdown, we will still have eaglemut, making the new 2040 server for continued support.
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as long as the game has LAN mode, we can always rely on gameranger/voobly/hamachi/tunngle/other shit-ware to save the day when servers are no more
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Can I bring my trucks to these servers?
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Cocaine wrote:Can I bring my trucks to these servers?
just host a trucking lobby
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I wonder how bad the DE lobby system will be compared to ESO? ESO was fairly well designed but I think they're going to fuck it up with DE. Oh well
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iNcog wrote:I wonder how bad the DE lobby system will be compared to ESO? ESO was fairly well designed but I think they're going to fuck it up with DE. Oh well
probably very similar to 2
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They should close eso for nilla and twc and just keep alive TAD with a decent server who doesn't crash, nilla is just trash and twc is dead since 12 years
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n0el wrote:
iNcog wrote:I wonder how bad the DE lobby system will be compared to ESO? ESO was fairly well designed but I think they're going to fuck it up with DE. Oh well
probably very similar to 2
Yeah so, that means bare-bones compared to ESO. Most people just take it for granted and don't realize how mature and feature-rich the ESO platform actually is.
ǝɯɐuɹǝsn wrote:They should close eso for nilla and twc and just keep alive TAD with a decent server who doesn't crash, nilla is just trash and twc is dead since 12 years
Already said this elsewhere, but I expect ESO to crash a lot less once DE releases and agecomm web shuts down. There will be a lot less load on the servers.
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ESO is amazing yeah
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EAGLEMUT wrote:
n0el wrote:
iNcog wrote:I wonder how bad the DE lobby system will be compared to ESO? ESO was fairly well designed but I think they're going to fuck it up with DE. Oh well
probably very similar to 2
Yeah so, that means bare-bones compared to ESO. Most people just take it for granted and don't realize how mature and feature-rich the ESO platform actually is.
ǝɯɐuɹǝsn wrote:They should close eso for nilla and twc and just keep alive TAD with a decent server who doesn't crash, nilla is just trash and twc is dead since 12 years
Already said this elsewhere, but I expect ESO to crash a lot less once DE releases and agecomm web shuts down. There will be a lot less load on the servers.
Yes, it's much better than the Age of Empires 1 and Age of Empires 2 multiplayer. I mean you can add and whisper friends, change your settings, hotkeys, look at the game browser all while being in a lobby or quick search. If you are in quick search in Age 2 de you can't change any settings; you can't look at the gamebrowser, you can't see which in-game friends are online. In eso, you can just rick click add a friend or right-click invite. In age 2 de it's a big hassle, and the only option you have is adding people through steam which always is troublesome. Eso is so much older but much more feature-rich. It's really sad. They completely ignored that part of the game. I do hope that we get a decent multiplayer search option. Also lately, Age 2 de is having a ton of troubles when searching for games and isn't as reliable as it should be.
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ESO has always been well designed and highly functional. Most of the problems stem from the technical side (FTJ, missing Quicksearch features, no dedicated servers, crashes, bugs, etc.)
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aaryngend wrote:ESO has always been well designed and highly functional. Most of the problems stem from the technical side (FTJ, missing Quicksearch features, no dedicated servers, crashes, bugs, etc.)
Yes, you are right. What needs to be fixed though is the friendslist cap. Because it maxes out pretty quickly, also a search in your friendslist would be nice. Besides that, there aren't many complaints. Ofc you should be able to quick search 2v2 or 3v3 with a friend as well. That's why 3v3 qs was dead from the start because you are always with random players.

Just these small improvements would've been great. Only thing I'm expecting to see is quick search with a mates.
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Being able to que with friends would be cool, I doubt the game will actually have the population for that to really work though
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gibson wrote:Being able to que with friends would be cool, I doubt the game will actually have the population for that to really work though
It will when you make it like aoe2:DE and have rated games only count through Quicksearch. Lobby browser would be for unrated games only.
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aaryngend wrote:
gibson wrote:Being able to que with friends would be cool, I doubt the game will actually have the population for that to really work though
It will when you make it like aoe2:DE and have rated games only count through Quicksearch. Lobby browser would be for unrated games only.
Makes sense, thats the way it works in most games. Every other game I've played you cant ladder via full lobby play.
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gibson wrote:
aaryngend wrote:
gibson wrote:Being able to que with friends would be cool, I doubt the game will actually have the population for that to really work though
It will when you make it like aoe2:DE and have rated games only count through Quicksearch. Lobby browser would be for unrated games only.
Makes sense, thats the way it works in most games. Every other game I've played you cant ladder via full lobby play.
On eso it didn't work because you couldn't q with friends

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