Lakota (Sioux) and Haudenosaunee (Iroquois).

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Re: Lakota (Sioux) and Haudenosaunee (Iroquois).

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dansil92 wrote:
I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:I wonder if we will finally get some female cdb's, ..... i'm asking on behalf of a mate of mine
Cdb always seemed to me like france was supposed to be like really metis focused, then they just like, didn't do that
yea that would have been cool. aztecs should have also had some spanish themes / units / aesthetics and not just be totally precolonial. macehualtin + lancers
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Squamiger wrote:
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I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:I wonder if we will finally get some female cdb's, ..... i'm asking on behalf of a mate of mine
Cdb always seemed to me like france was supposed to be like really metis focused, then they just like, didn't do that
yea that would have been cool. aztecs should have also had some spanish themes / units / aesthetics and not just be totally precolonial. macehualtin + lancers
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The vast majority of the troops the spanish used to conquer the aztec empire were from various allied tribes also. A lot of cooporation went on between the spanish and the natives.
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Yes but the design wouldnt be the same as the spanish units are european and the allied tribes were natives.
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Perhaps Spain could have more native shipments from Central American natives such as zapotecs, Maya and aztecs(macehualtins, jpk).
Same goes to the euro civs that holded some kind of relationship with the natives. As for French and brits that traded and equipped some north natives(tomahawks, Cherokee riflemen, Huron).
Native cards are really fun tho.
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Jets wrote:Perhaps Spain could have more native shipments from Central American natives such as zapotecs, Maya and aztecs(macehualtins, jpk).
Same goes to the euro civs that holded some kind of relationship with the natives. As for French and brits that traded and equipped some north natives(tomahawks, Cherokee riflemen, Huron).
Native cards are really fun tho.
I would love to see decks which have new cards in it with new mechanics or just new buildings etc
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yea that would have been cool. aztecs should have also had some spanish themes / units / aesthetics and not just be totally precolonial. macehualtin + lancers
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I think the historical evidence shows that relationship in a submissive/menacing way. Spain employing aztec minor natives, not the other way.
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Jets wrote:I think the historical evidence shows that relationship in a submissive/menacing way. Spain employing aztec minor natives, not the other way.
Agreed. What really drove Them together was a common enemy in the Aztec. Spain had further ambitions in the area after that though.
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I just want the artillery unit of act 1 which were trainable when played malta.
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Rohbrot wrote:I just want the artillery unit of act 1 which were trainable when played malta.
Well I guess chakrams are basically like hoop throwers.
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I just want +2 range grens.
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@japanesegeneral wow that's a neat idea, which interview is that?
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chris1089 wrote:
Rohbrot wrote:I just want the artillery unit of act 1 which were trainable when played malta.
Well I guess chakrams are basically like hoop throwers.
Hoop throwers were much better than chakrams tho
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I just want trainable Spahis
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurg ... rn_America
During the Mississippian period (800–1600 CE, varying locally), elites at major political and religious centers throughout the midwestern and southeastern United States used copper ornamentation as a sign of their status by crafting the sacred material into representations connected with the Chiefly Warrior cult of the Southeastern Ceremonial Complex (S.E.C.C.).[26] This ornamentation includes Mississippian copper plates, repousséd plates of beaten copper now found as far afield as Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Mississippi, Oklahoma, and Tennessee. Some of the more famous of the plates are of raptorial birds and avian-themed dancing warriors. These plates, such as the Rogan plates from Etowah, the Spiro plates from the Spiro in Oklahoma, and the Wulfing cache from southeast Missouri, were instrumental in the development of the archaeological concept known as the S.E.C.C.[26]

The only Mississippian culture site where a copper workshop has been located by archaeologists is Cahokia in western Illinois, where a copper workshop dating to the Moorehead Phase (c. 1200 CE) was identified at Mound 34. Gregory Perino identified the site in 1956 and archaeologists subsequently excavated it.[27] Numerous copper fragments were found at the site; metallographic analysis indicated that Mississippian copper workers worked copper into thin sheet through repeated hammering and annealing, a process that could be successful over open-pit wood fires.[27]
i feel like maybe you could just change the animation of villagers on the gold mine, so they are doing "metallurgy" rather than mining with pickaxes. Make them use the same animation as they do for hunting or something?
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Rohbrot wrote:I just want the artillery unit of act 1 which were trainable when played malta.
Yeah act one so weird they dont allow you to have cannons but age 3 mortars was ok for some reason
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helln00 wrote:
Rohbrot wrote:I just want the artillery unit of act 1 which were trainable when played malta.
Yeah act one so weird they dont allow you to have cannons but age 3 mortars was ok for some reason
To be fair, having mortars before field cannons makes sense historically. The very early big boys were siege weapons, such as the guns of Urban who constructed the Ottoman bombards for the siege of Constantinople.
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Great bombards!!!
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the more we got info about native civ in the DE, the less i wanna play (it) them, good job Aoe Nativ historical rectification edition
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as someone who can understand like 25-40% of the german he is saying, that was very funny hearing how excited he gets about culverins or the hot air balloon. and very funny seeing him stuck in age 1 getting rushed by the Iro bot
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It just looks so different than its original, will take time to feel good while playing.
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Warchiefs can convert outlaws, but not guardian animals. Instead there seems to be an attack ability with their weapon.
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Marketplace seems to work like a coin mine. The player starts with a free one, then has to build next ones for 25w each in a direct proximity to coin mines, and gather from the marketplaces like other civs would from the mines themselves. What is weird, is that when sioux gather from marketplaces, the amount of coin left on the mines decreases. Huh.

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They made WC now stromger with the spear ability, that kills guardians instead + outlaw convert...
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