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The game was played on Esoc patch 3.1 xD
Miggo u saving this rec to your death? :)
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@Rohbrot stored safely in my 3 inch steel-vault
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amiggo1999 wrote:@Rohbrot stored safely in my 3 inch steel-vault
When even the thiccness of your steel-vault is larger than the length of your... sorry couldn't resist! ^_^
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amiggo1999 wrote:@Rohbrot stored safely in my 3 inch steel-vault
Can't believe this is coming from a guy who said this...
Anyways im finally done with this shit game and all this retarded community.
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hope you all enjoyed, idk if ill do more of this in the future depends on if people found this informative
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Hazza54321 wrote:hope you all enjoyed, idk if ill do more of this in the future depends on if people found this informative
Fantastic. Best stream I've seen in ages.
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I dont think i've seen a 16 min game being dissected and broken down over an entire hour before, must be a new record.

I think if you were to do vids on these try and keep them to 35-40mins max, kinda felt like a lecture and i had forgot what happened earlier in the game to appreciate the position of the players in the end game if that makes sense
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Hazza54321 wrote:hope you all enjoyed, idk if ill do more of this in the future depends on if people found this informative

One of the best AoE3 #contentcreated I've ever seen. I'd gladly watch more.
The interactive format is very good, better than if you were analysing one game alone.

Giving this level of analysis to good tournament games would be great too (like your German mirror against Mitoe).
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Hazza54321 wrote:hope you all enjoyed, idk if ill do more of this in the future depends on if people found this informative
Do the same, but with a teamgame. There has been recent interest (as far as I can tell) about more content analyzing team games.
Quality over quantity. Content like this is great from time to time, I doubt it can be produced on a weekly basis, while still retaining a high quality.
I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:I dont think i've seen a 16 min game being dissected and broken down over an entire hour before, must be a new record.
Then you haven't seen Day9. Stuff like this is his trademark.
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Hazza54321 wrote:hope you all enjoyed, idk if ill do more of this in the future depends on if people found this informative
Will you post it on youtube or something? I couldn't watch live.
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lemmings121 wrote:
Hazza54321 wrote:hope you all enjoyed, idk if ill do more of this in the future depends on if people found this informative
Will you post it on youtube or something? I couldn't watch live.
I will indeed
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For those who missed it
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I decided to watch it and there are lot of interesting stuffs, especially about mechanics. I didn't know that you could consistently pull trick with 2 units and learnt some things about cav micro.
Some more basic commentaries about mistakes you made (which have more consequences than huss micro imo).
1) I think that going 700w and building the stable from 400w is just suboptimal. If you want to go stable first, sending the bank wagon is better, especially if you have a market. It worked out well here because Samwise fucked up and you manage to kill a cdb, but I don't think that you need your hussars early tbh.
2) Your herding was awful this game. Not only did you lose villager seconds because you had iddle vills, but you also wasted quite a lot of apm managing your iddle vills. This apm could have been spent to build your banks earlier, or micro your units.
As a general rule, macro is more important than micro because when you have more stuff, you win the fight, and because you have more apm to micro when you've macro'd correctly.
As hazza said, prioritize herding over being active on the map with huss.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:I didn't know that you could consistently pull trick with 2 units
I though pull tricking required units to be aligned, I had no idea that selecting the unit that is ahead first makes it consistent also. That blew my mind
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macacoalbino wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:I didn't know that you could consistently pull trick with 2 units
I though pull tricking required units to be aligned, I had no idea that selecting the unit that is ahead first makes it consistent also. That blew my mind
yeah i thought that it is about them going the same direction AND selecting forward one first
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glad to be of service ;)
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might do my own gameplay in a short while
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Hazza54321 wrote:might do my own gameplay in a short while
That would certainly be most interesting.
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I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:I dont think i've seen a 16 min game being dissected and broken down over an entire hour before, must be a new record.

I think if you were to do vids on these try and keep them to 35-40mins max, kinda felt like a lecture and i had forgot what happened earlier in the game to appreciate the position of the players in the end game if that makes sense
thanks for the feedback, first time doing it so hopefully will learn from this
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I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:I dont think i've seen a 16 min game being dissected and broken down over an entire hour before, must be a new record.

I think if you were to do vids on these try and keep them to 35-40mins max, kinda felt like a lecture and i had forgot what happened earlier in the game to appreciate the position of the players in the end game if that makes sense
I mean, that's why you take notes during lectures ;)
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I_HaRRiiSoN_I wrote:I dont think i've seen a 16 min game being dissected and broken down over an entire hour before, must be a new record.

I think if you were to do vids on these try and keep them to 35-40mins max, kinda felt like a lecture and i had forgot what happened earlier in the game to appreciate the position of the players in the end game if that makes sense
The longer the better, it's not like I have stuff to do.
However taking a few minutes at the end to summarize the 4 to 5 most important lessons from the game would be a good addition.
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Seems simple yet good players make those sort of mistakes all the time
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Nice job, many good insights Mr H! This i like a lot :)

Useful for everyone, even higher level players, to watch. For the general audience you might want to make it shorter. Also, because it is a detailed analysis, I would indeed hint at the start (for new viewers) that the end has a summary with the 5 main points for improvement.

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