Why did housebooms become a thing?

[dansil92]

japan is probably fine, it just counters "i refuse to make siege" and meta semi ff. oh and ashi should be 4 speed.

[chronique]

Make shrines 200hp, but reduce cost to 100w.

And give them some legs to allows them to back if they are under pressure ^^ . Wait that's a great idea for a new civ!!

[Squamiger]

To those that said Dutch, I think they are ok. Their boom is not too crazy and they are actually hurting themselves with banking a bit by taking away wood that could otherwise be used for housing. The house-boomers get crazy eco+infinite popspace in one, which is plain unfair. Plus they only can get coin, making them still hunt dependant and punishable on the map.

Oh yea what if you just made all the house boom civs have to place buildings that didn’t give pop space, so they had to build houses in addition. That’s an interesting fix I hadn’t thought about. Bc no one really complains about Dutch and that’s basically what they are

[firstaim]

To follow AOM Greek temple and AOE3 DE Lakota/HAUD, Japan shall put vils working at the shrine.
That will fix this issue.

[duckzilla]

Remove japanese explorer ability to build shrines, thereby making jap villagers more raidable. Reduce shrines HP to 600, but improve gathering rates (slightly) linearly with distance to the starting TC, making shrines gather twice as fast at the other side of the map.

[chris1089]

Remove japanese explorer ability to build shrines, thereby making jap villagers more raidable. Reduce shrines HP to 600, but improve gathering rates (slightly) linearly with distance to the starting TC, making shrines gather twice as fast at the other side of the map.

Idk that makes camping in base stronger. Not sure that's good. The idea of reducing hp is to make them come out on the map.

[dutchdude117]

You know what this thread makes me think... Dutch banks should provide population space. Its actually crazy that Japan, Sweden, Inca, all have building that benefit them economically ( each building representing 1-2 vils gathering an infinite resource) while at the same time providing housing space. They are literally up 2000 wood by the time they are done with their boom because they wont have to build a single house for the rest of the game. At least with brit it forces you to gather with a vilagers still, so they are raidable, and so if the map runs out of resources the vilagers cannot gather.

[Plantinator]

Unfortunately the dutch dont live in banks lmao

[firstaim]

Unfortunately the dutch dont live in banks lmao

This makes me think about Lakota live at plain.

[chris1089]

Unfortunately the dutch dont live in banks lmao

Whereas the Japanese live in shrines.

[edeholland]

I can't really answer the original question. Japanese shrines surely were one of the biggest gripes people had with 3RE. I don't know why they designed two new civs and decided two times that changing houses into economic units would be the way to make the civ unique. They did look at WOL for ideas for other parts of the game, I wonder why they didn't take more ideas from them for giving civs economic advantages and making them unique.

[UpMySleeves]

You know what this thread makes me think... Dutch banks should provide population space.

Name checks out.

I guess lack of imagination as it's been said and these types of civs are more friendly towards new players? Seems like many people in this thread came up with nice small tweaks to make these civs less annoying to play vs.

[dutchdude117]

You know what this thread makes me think... Dutch banks should provide population space.

Name checks out.

I guess lack of imagination as it's been said and these types of civs are more friendly towards new players? Seems like many people in this thread came up with nice small tweaks to make these civs less annoying to play vs.

I am trying to make a joke, I don't really think dutch should get pop space for their banks. The goal of the statement was to emphasize how powerful it is to tie economic growth with population space.

[UpMySleeves]

Yes, I too was making a joke.