Rough ELO > legacy PR conversion?

[CR_Joops]

Hey

Does anyone know what the rough estimate for ELO > legacy PR conversion is?

I was about PR 23-24 on legacy, am now about 1200-1300 ELO. Feel like I've improved thanks to watching ESOC YT channel/Drongo etc but could also have regressed...

Difficult to know without a way of converting ELO to PR.

Cheers!

[I_HaRRiiSoN_I]

kinda hard to say there are definitely many more decent players around that level. I am about 1550 Elo and have an RE rank of technically 26 but probably PR28. I remember there big a big jump from PR25 to PR26 way before i did any of the casting stuff, so maybe the new game/players has widened this gap. I think saying that PR25 is equal to 1400 at the moment on the ladder is a fair guess but the ladder will keep on changing and stretching for at least another couple of months

[Riotcoke]

Elo changes way too much to be useful honestly. Also it's very easy to spam one civ and get to top 100.

[harcha]

I can agree with Harrisons sentiment, and I think PR32s are roughly 1700, PR35s roughly 1800 at the moment. It is quite volatile, so max elo would be a better indicator :)

[Kanoo]

What about Master Sergeants? ie, pr 17-19

[CR_Joops]

What about Master Sergeants? ie, pr 17-19

I played a guy earlier who was MS on legacy.

His ELO was just below 1100.

[Challenger_Marco]

What about Master Sergeants? ie, pr 17-19

1000-1100

[gibson]

Elo changes way too much to be useful honestly. Also it's very easy to spam one civ and get to top 100.

just play Dutch and rush 7 banks, it’s impossible to lose

[I_HaRRiiSoN_I]

Do regular sergeants play ranked?

[Luciofrancosi]

I think 1st lieutenant is equivalent of 1200 to 1300 elo as I was 1st lt on TAD and I am sitting at around that range.
Thing about elo is that it changes really quick. You can win or loose like 100 elo points in a single day but its really hard to tell

[Squamiger]

Once I stopped constantly disconnecting I hit 1400 elo, and I was pr 24-25. But that pr might have been a tad low, since by the end of the ep days I was constantly losing to almost everyone I played because it was almost impossible to find a game with someone my level or below

[bobabu]

It depends on ep or re. Because all the good players moved to ep the re ranks were inflated in the end. So pr 26 on ep was like pr 29 on re. So I think that's what @I_HaRRiiSoN_I is describing. (Being 26 and 29 at the same time)

[Squamiger]

@bobabu I've heard that but I'm not even sure that was the case. maybe some EP players who were 26 on ep were 29 on re, but I also remember just getting regularly dumpstered by pr 25-26s on RE too. I feel like playing unranked matches was still really common and plenty of Re players also had deflated pr because of this. Also RE was just a different game-- you could play differently and win differently, with super walls and water laming and all the other broken stuff that EP patched

[Riotcoke]

@bobabu I've heard that but I'm not even sure that was the case. maybe some EP players who were 26 on ep were 29 on re, but I also remember just getting regularly dumpstered by pr 25-26s on RE too. I feel like playing unranked matches was still really common and plenty of Re players also had deflated pr because of this. Also RE was just a different game-- you could play differently and win differently, with super walls and water laming and all the other broken stuff that EP patched

Well alot of the people who were cpt on RE ended up just abusing random shit, E.g QS was full of cpts who just 10/10 as India or played 24/7 iro, if you wanted to get to like pr30 on RE all you had to do was lame something on QS at the end, the only good players you'd ever meet would be like Ezad & Lukas and maybe David.

[ǝɯɐuɹǝsn]

you can't make Elo to PR conversion because elo is part of PR, it's like comparing a gearbox to a car, PR doesn't mean anything alone, and elo change really really fast, + you got a elo for 1v1 or team game, wich can be really different, but there is only 1 PR for all sup game

at least try to compare your Elo on legacy to your elo on DE if you got enought game played for both version, it will be more significant

[Scroogie]

Very very roughly maybe ELO= PR*100/2. The rating systems are different and have different distributions, so it's hard to tell. Since PR tends to stagnate, late in EP/RE making big jumps was rare and difficult. On the DE elo ladder it feels to me like the field is much denser, if there were more players, kaiser, sam, hazza would probably be higher. Taking the elo formula, a 2100 player has an expected winrate of 97%, 91% and 76% against 1900, 1700 and 1500 respectively. Imo, one of the top guys would win more often than that vs a 1900.

[chris1089]

Do you mean to say 76%, 91% and 97% respectively?

[Scroogie]

Do you mean to say 76%, 91% and 97% respectively?

yea meth math is hard

[JKProwler]

Roughly 1200-1300 Is 1st It, 1300-1600 is Capt/Major, 1600-1700 Is Lt Colonel

But the dynamics of qs vs being able to pick and choose via lobby will buff and nerf some players...for example a player who has a wider game knowledge will beat a player who is a bit better mechanically but don't understand certain MU, maps and some civ BO

[Squamiger]

Roughly 1200-1300 Is 1st It, 1300-1600 is Capt/Major, 1600-1700 Is Lt Colonel

But the dynamics of qs vs being able to pick and choose via lobby will buff and nerf some players...for example a player who has a wider game knowledge will beat a player who is a bit better mechanically but don't understand certain MU, maps and some civ BO

yea i just feel like qs on DE is such a different game than finding a lobby on ESO and choosing civs / choosing maps, and playing the same person several times. DE qs rewards being able to adapt to a lot of different matchups

[deleted_user]

Elos are inflated by stream snipers

[lemmings121]

To make a propper conversion, you have to use the PLM.

The Piroshiki Landmark Method consists in looking for piro current elo. Thats means pr30.

To increase the accuracy of the system, you should also factor in the TGSIM.

TheGreatscythe Interpolation Method. Where you use current scyte's elo as pr24, and with piros pr30 you interpolate the elos of everyone else.

[vividlyplain]

To make a propper conversion, you have to use the PLM.

The Piroshiki Landmark Method consists in looking for piro current elo. Thats means pr30.

To increase the accuracy of the system, you should also factor in the TGSIM.

TheGreatscythe Interpolation Method. Where you use current scyte's elo as pr24, and with piros pr30 you interpolate the elos of everyone else.

Piro is currently rank 120ish? Don’t recall elo.
GS is 1330 elo.

[n0el]

To make a propper conversion, you have to use the PLM.

The Piroshiki Landmark Method consists in looking for piro current elo. Thats means pr30.

To increase the accuracy of the system, you should also factor in the TGSIM.

TheGreatscythe Interpolation Method. Where you use current scyte's elo as pr24, and with piros pr30 you interpolate the elos of everyone else.

Piro is currently rank 120ish? Don’t recall elo.
GS is 1330 elo.

Applying this method yields:

PR 50 = 2390
PR 45 = 2144
PR 40 = 1959
PR 35 = 1774
PR 30 = 1589
PR 25 = 1404

seems pretty accurate ngl

[look]

Nice method lol