USA speculation thread

[harcha]

A special x3 multiplier for all their units against all natives and British units.

I like this idea, except the multi vs Brit units is visible, but multi vs nats is hidden (in the spirit of AOE3).

[duckzilla]

Televangelist as special unit replacing priests. Converts opponent villagers directly into 100 coin each.

[Mr_Bramboy]

Surely the USA isn't that historically inaccurate since the game's time period includes the Industrial era during which the USA was actively expanding/conquering/genociding into the west while starting new colonies and founding new cities left and right. Perhaps - if it is going to be the USA - we'll see a Protoss-esque idea where the USA advances into tech quickly and has a small army of highly specialized units. It's also possible that the "USA" is just codename for a different civilization, so don't get too excited.

[duckzilla]

USA = Unkown State of Asia = Persia confirmed!!!


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or is it: Utterly Suppressed Area = POLAND

[helln00]

USA = Unkown State of Asia = Persia confirmed!!!


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or is it: Utterly Suppressed Area = POLAND

I was thinking United Soviet Anachronism to fit in the theme of not fitting in the theme of aoe 3

[princeofcarthage]

American Empire is just an extension of English Empire. You can basically conclude that seat of power has changed from London to Washington. Primary reason why today's world is such a mess. Anything that UK touches is burnt.

[princeofcarthage]

American Empire is just an extension of English Empire. You can basically conclude that seat of power has changed from London to Washington. Primary reason why today's world is such a mess. Anything that UK touches is burnt.

[iNcog]

Remind me again how mad you are about the inclusion of USA in a game that has you fighting the "Circle of Ossus" over the "Fountain of Youth" because it doesn't make sense historically?

Yeah but I hated the campaign too

[RefluxSemantic]

I dont get how people so anal about historic accuracy ended up playing aoe and enjoying it.

[Peachrocks]

I dont get how people so anal about historic accuracy ended up playing aoe and enjoying it.

It’s not historical accuracy entirely. It’s the fact there are literally 20 plus better choices first, but they likely picked this one because it’s a lot easier putting them in the game then say Poland, Ethiopia or Morocco on voice work alone, never mind research for cards etc. I mean the rework Haudenosaunee and Lakota got two voices each, one male and one female, I mean seriously? I honestly doubt that’s all they could find. It just fits the usual narrative of this game ‘half assed’. On top of that rather than attempt to fix the numerous issues, they want to milk more money out of the players for DLC!? Since fixing things doesn’t get them any money. In any case if they charge for this it’s very rude and even if they don’t, the time could be better spent, but I will be stunned if they don’t charge, since they did recently for Sicily and Burgundy.

Almost nobody gives a damn about Haudenosaunee or Aztecs in Siberia for example. The historical thing is mostly an excuse and for lack of better word a feel or emotion against having the US in the game. This emotional thing does not make it invalid though because of what I just stated about there being at least 20 better choices.

[Dolan]

I don't think ppl have some antipathy for seeing USA in the game. For me, when I started playing Age of Empires (with Rise of Rome), what was cool about it was that I could lead a civilisation from the past.
What was a civilisation in the past, if not a dominant culture that started expanding and spreading their cultural model to other territories.
So I associate civilisation with the big past cultures, like the Sumerians, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, medieval Germanic tribes, Byzantines, Aztecs, Olmecs, Spanish, French, etc.

I don't associate USA with a civilisation, like something new that you couldn't find somewhere else. They didn't invent new gunpowder units or artillery that was much different from other Europeans. They didn't have any new kind of architecture, they just borrowed from Europe. Most of the stuff that lay at the foundations of the US is borrowed from European culture, then it took a life of its own and turned into some colonial knock-off version that simulates the original.

You could say that politically the US adopted modern forms of government faster than Europe because it was in a better position to do that, it was a new country that rejected the authority of the British crown.
So they weren't so shackled by historical legacy like Europe was. But politics is not so much part of AOE, so not sure what would be so original about a US civ.

[Zutazuta]

I dont get how people so anal about historic accuracy ended up playing aoe and enjoying it.

The historical thing is mostly an excuse and for lack of better word a feel or emotion against having the US in the game.

Unless you're a murican. Then you're stoked to get another chance to send the brits packing like its 1776!

[Peachrocks]

I dont get how people so anal about historic accuracy ended up playing aoe and enjoying it.

The historical thing is mostly an excuse and for lack of better word a feel or emotion against having the US in the game.

Unless you're a murican. Then you're stoked to get another chance to send the brits packing like its 1776!

You can already do this. It’s called revolting.

[Dolan]

Revolting is forbidden in the USA now, it's only allowed in AOE3.

[iCourt]

It’s not historical accuracy entirely. It’s the fact there are literally 20 plus better choices first.

Plz name all 20 better choices. Not saying you can't just want to see what you come up with.

[duckzilla]

It’s not historical accuracy entirely. It’s the fact there are literally 20 plus better choices first.

Plz name all 20 better choices. Not saying you can't just want to see what you come up with.

Starting with this list is, we are already at 14.

Personally, I would add Hungary, Mali, Manchu/Ming, Mamluks, Scotland, and Wallachia (because OP impaling skills).

[Snuden]

It’s not historical accuracy entirely. It’s the fact there are literally 20 plus better choices first.

Plz name all 20 better choices. Not saying you can't just want to see what you come up with.

Starting with this list is, we are already at 14.

Personally, I would add Hungary, Mali, Manchu/Ming, Mamluks, Scotland, and Wallachia (because OP impaling skills).

The voting % seems odd to me... but I have just been THC vaping, so I am most likely reading it wrong.

[Snuden]

I will look at it again tomorrow.

[duckzilla]

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It’s not historical accuracy entirely. It’s the fact there are literally 20 plus better choices first.

Plz name all 20 better choices. Not saying you can't just want to see what you come up with.

Starting with this list is, we are already at 14.

Personally, I would add Hungary, Mali, Manchu/Ming, Mamluks, Scotland, and Wallachia (because OP impaling skills).

The voting % seems odd to me... but I have just been THC vaping, so I am most likely reading it wrong.

Multiple choice was allowed.

[princeofcarthage]

I would like India to be renamed to Mughals or Maratha, or preferably both civs added.

[iCourt]

It’s not historical accuracy entirely. It’s the fact there are literally 20 plus better choices first.

Plz name all 20 better choices. Not saying you can't just want to see what you come up with.

Starting with this list is, we are already at 14.

Personally, I would add Hungary, Mali, Manchu/Ming, Mamluks, Scotland, and Wallachia (because OP impaling skills).

But we now need 6 more without including USA. Keep going I believe in you all! Also are those actually all better?

I feel like some of those you could make mostly all the same arguments against them as you can against the USA being included.

[bobabu]

Maybe Hawaii as a colony. Oh wait they never gave it back. Maybe Puerto Rico. Oh wait they never gave it back and took a nice crap on it.

[iCourt]

I will at least argue at least USA was too safe of a pick. I'd have argued Italy would have been too safe of a pick too. Did they confirm only 1 civ was being added? We sure that this DLC won't include 2-3 civs?

Would have been neat to see them go for an African civ maybe with some consulate options. I guess my points before were just to point out all the dumb arguments about historical accuracy and such in a fantasy video game very loosely based on history.

[RefluxSemantic]

I think USA is maybe in my top 3 together with Italy and Poland. I think historic impact is pretty important and I feel like it'd be easy to make the USA a really thematic civ. I kinda hope the game has a great USA civil war campaign.

[princeofcarthage]

I think USA is maybe in my top 3 together with Italy and Poland. I think historic impact is pretty important and I feel like it'd be easy to make the USA a really thematic civ. I kinda hope the game has a great USA civil war campaign.

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