The DE generation

[gibson]

right, Considering they are free, if you ship one arsenal and build two, you are still paying less then others civs pay to get a single arsenal tech.. but you will have them all. card is just designed to be broken. there is no way someone compared the advanced arsenal card to this new one and said "yeah sounds fair"

Someone could argue that "but usa is bad now!" but that's just the launch patch, if they give them a couple small buffs so they arent so slow, then crazy things like this arsenal start to show in games and prove the civ impossible to balance, and we are back to the beggining of the thread: new content is designed to be fun, not competitive

Actually, I think that they are just trying to gild the pill to keep money milking people with this abomination ironically called "Definitive Edition".

DE has overall objectively been a success(although obviously not as much at the “competitive” level) but stay mad that your shitbox pc can’t run it.

[Jets]

I don't think its that their minutemen are permanent, its that their HP floor is higher, so they wont go down to 1 HP naturally. I remember its like 50 HP, which means that for the most part they tank 2 hits instead of 1. That is pretty strong but I don't think its breaking.

[duckzilla]

Show me more broken units

[Mr_Bramboy]

To be fair, that's including the marine card.

[Jotunir]

right, Considering they are free, if you ship one arsenal and build two, you are still paying less then others civs pay to get a single arsenal tech.. but you will have them all. card is just designed to be broken. there is no way someone compared the advanced arsenal card to this new one and said "yeah sounds fair"

Someone could argue that "but usa is bad now!" but that's just the launch patch, if they give them a couple small buffs so they arent so slow, then crazy things like this arsenal start to show in games and prove the civ impossible to balance, and we are back to the beggining of the thread: new content is designed to be fun, not competitive

Actually, I think that they are just trying to gild the pill to keep money milking people with this abomination ironically called "Definitive Edition".

DE has overall objectively been a success(although obviously not as much at the “competitive” level) but stay mad that your shitbox pc can’t run it.

The problem is not about my pc at all (ad hominem btw).
Hundreds of new bugs, new civs with completely broken mechanics, politically motivated unnecessary changes and performance issues. Those are the real problems this "Definitive Edition" has.
Anyhow, I hope you have a nice day!

[helln00]

I don't think its that their minutemen are permanent, its that their HP floor is higher, so they wont go down to 1 HP naturally. I remember its like 50 HP, which means that for the most part they tank 2 hits instead of 1. That is pretty strong but I don't think its breaking.

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Is that with cards that they don't lose their HP? I am pretty sure that naturally they still lose HP