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1) Terrible balance and AFK in base new civs. Devs are completely clueless.

2) Shit ton of bugs. Listing them all would take all day

3) Matchmaking style: No possibility to fix match ups ranked. Connect this with number 1) and it is just not enjoyable. Sweden and Japs all day long if you want to play ranked.

4) Unable to reconnect even if you lose connection literally for 1 second. This is a nightmare for players who are forced to use WIFI due to living arrangements. I guess the technology is not ready for this.

5) The name system: You have no idea who you are facing and people can keep changing their name all the time. This is not very fun when you have no idea at all what level of opponent you're facing.

6) No ****** say ****** cencor ***** awesome ******

7) Menus are shit. Friend system is bad. You can't even do anything while you que in QS. Not even build decks.

8) OBS possibilities suck. Tournaments have to be casted from records which is not the same. You don't want to watch football either as a replay even if you don't know the results.

9) Destroyed edition also killed the team games which used to be a very popular thing in EP.

10) Badly, in rushed, designed poor money pocketing DLCs. Intentionally done "bore to death" free "objectives".
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Yeah agree with basically everything. Somehow though lots of people actually think this is better than EP

I'd also add the fact there is no match history whatsoever
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they could do much more than they did, I still think it's better than the old game, but like in the past the game is still forgotten by whoever controls it.
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I agree with most of the points here listed and I highly doubt it will get better with time. It's a pity, some of us knew this would happen since the same had already occurred with Age of Mythology.
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Most of those are non issues, issues with your setup, being a whiny bitch. The real issues are 1) pathing. I think at this point it will never be fixed and this is a huge issue. 2) balance. Balance was not great last patch, and while a lot of issues are addressed in this upcoming patch, the addition of 2 new civs is obviously going to make balance pretty shit, probably for another 3 months at least.
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gibson wrote:Most of those are non issues, issues with your setup, being a whiny bitch. The real issues are 1) pathing. I think at this point it will never be fixed. 2) balance. Balance was not great last patch, and while a lot of issues are addressed in this upcoming patch, the addition of 2 new civs is obviously going to make balance pretty shit, probably for another 3 months at least.
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For competitive play, DE is much worse than EP. For the vast majority of the players - and the target audience - DE is miles better than legacy.

It will be the same for AoE4 - there is a reason why there has not been a released gameplay trailer one month before release. You can either be consumed in your disdain or accept the reality and move on.
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Jotunir wrote:
gibson wrote:Most of those are non issues, issues with your setup, being a whiny bitch. The real issues are 1) pathing. I think at this point it will never be fixed. 2) balance. Balance was not great last patch, and while a lot of issues are addressed in this upcoming patch, the addition of 2 new civs is obviously going to make balance pretty shit, probably for another 3 months at least.
"Badly, in rushed, designed poor money pocketing DLCs"
Thats just wrong. The dlc civs have been one of the best parts of de. They arenā€™t badly designed or seem rushed. Do they need some tweaking to be properly balanced? Ofc, but that was expected.
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gibson wrote:Most of those are non issues, issues with your setup, being a whiny bitch. The real issues are 1) pathing. I think at this point it will never be fixed. 2) balance. Balance was not great last patch, and while a lot of issues are addressed in this upcoming patch, the addition of 2 new civs is obviously going to make balance pretty shit, probably for another 3 months at least.
Yeah we will see tomorrow, this game will probably be worst.

Sadly DE literally killed AOE3
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Syphax wrote:
gibson wrote:Most of those are non issues, issues with your setup, being a whiny bitch. The real issues are 1) pathing. I think at this point it will never be fixed. 2) balance. Balance was not great last patch, and while a lot of issues are addressed in this upcoming patch, the addition of 2 new civs is obviously going to make balance pretty shit, probably for another 3 months at least.
Yeah we will see tomorrow, this game will probably be worst.

Sadly DE literally killed AOE3
We already know, you can literally go play on it now with the pup beta. Balance is a lot better, but as mentioned with the African civs that will likely fuck it all up. Iā€™m not sure how it killed aoe3 when the game averages a lot more players than legacy did.
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gibson wrote:
Syphax wrote:
gibson wrote:Most of those are non issues, issues with your setup, being a whiny bitch. The real issues are 1) pathing. I think at this point it will never be fixed. 2) balance. Balance was not great last patch, and while a lot of issues are addressed in this upcoming patch, the addition of 2 new civs is obviously going to make balance pretty shit, probably for another 3 months at least.
Yeah we will see tomorrow, this game will probably be worst.

Sadly DE literally killed AOE3
We already know, you can literally go play on it now with the pup beta. Iā€™m not sure how it killed aoe3 when the game averages a lot more players than legacy did.
Mr_Bramboy wrote:For competitive play, DE is much worse than EP. For the vast majority of the players - and the target audience - DE is miles better than legacy.
I would rather have a quality game than a popular one. @gibson an appeal to the majority is not a good argument.
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tbh I quite agree with all the points quoted from somppu, but it's my competitive player that speaks
If I look at the perspective of a casual rts player or who has been playing aoe3 for a while but has never looked at the competitive side this game is amazing and even more tomorrow
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Atleast it doesnt delete ur files anymore
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Seriously this game is just a big meme
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kevinitalien wrote:tbh I quite agree with all the points quoted from somppu, but it's my competitive player that speaks
If I look at the perspective of a casual rts player or who has been playing aoe3 for a while but has never looked at the competitive side this game is amazing and even more tomorrow
Well for myself, i did become a casual Player on DE due to all the problems. I used to tryhard in like 80 percent of legacy games but i dont see the point on DE tbh. Now i just host my 1v1 unrated lobbies all the time.
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Victor_swe wrote:Atleast it doesnt delete ur files anymore
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The game is okay. Balance isn't the best but I still find a decent selection of civs on QS.
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guys did you tried to contact microsoft staff to tell them how the game is broken?
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somp wrote:1) Terrible balance and AFK in base new civs. Devs are completely clueless.

2) Shit ton of bugs. Listing them all would take all day

3) Matchmaking style: No possibility to fix match ups ranked. Connect this with number 1) and it is just not enjoyable. Sweden and Japs all day long if you want to play ranked.

4) Unable to reconnect even if you lose connection literally for 1 second. This is a nightmare for players who are forced to use WIFI due to living arrangements. I guess the technology is not ready for this.

5) The name system: You have no idea who you are facing and people can keep changing their name all the time. This is not very fun when you have no idea at all what level of opponent you're facing.

6) No ****** say ****** cencor ***** awesome ******

7) Menus are shit. Friend system is bad. You can't even do anything while you que in QS. Not even build decks.

8) OBS possibilities suck. Tournaments have to be casted from records which is not the same. You don't want to watch football either as a replay even if you don't know the results.

9) Destroyed edition also killed the team games which used to be a very popular thing in EP.

10) Badly, in rushed, designed poor money pocketing DLCs. Intentionally done "bore to death" free "objectives".
1. idk if its terrible balance. it's worse than EP but better than RE, which is to be expected for a game that is balanced around mid-tier and casual players. at my level around 1400 elo, it feels fine basically. also, the patch tomorrow should fix some of the glaring balance issues with swedes.

2. at least there's support and bugs are constantly being fixed, unlike legacy.

3. it's really not swe and japan all the time, at least not when i play

4. i did used to have shitty wifi and that did suck. now my wifi is better and while every so often I get a lag spike, i can usually just reconnect. i don't think i've dropped a game in months. it's definitely worse than EP if you have shitty wifi, but infinitely better if you dont.

5. yes this is dumb

6. also dumb, should be able to turn off filter.

7. true, but thats what discord is for. ingame messaging is never going to be better than discord so why bother expending labor on it. except yes, it would be nice to be able to build decks while queueing.

8. the looktom v. callen match was just casted live. it seemed to work fine. tbh I think the reason why tournies aren't live is mostly because of unwillingness by the players and casters, because scheduling across timezones is hard. idk why that wasn't a problem on EP but it is now.

9. no one is preventing you from playing premade team games in DE, who cares about ELO really

10. better than nothing? USA civ seems like a lot of thought went into it. but yes, the challenges are mind numbing


i think the DE hate probably boils down to people with shitty wifi vs. people with decent wifi. I hated DE when I had shitty wifi. It was unplayable. It felt like AoE3 was robbed from me. Now I have good wifi, and DE feels so much smoother and nicer than legacy and I could never go back. So I feel you, if you have shit wifi. Idk what the solution to that is really. Unfortunate, but it's sort of a "needs of the many" issue. Most people have wifi that can run it, so they optimized the game to be smooth and nice with good wifi. If we went back to peer to peer it would help people with shit wifi a lot, but it would also present no real benefit to most people, and would probably inconvenience more people in general, as a net
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Half of the complains here are about the qs system and the direct consequences of the end of ranked lobbies.

When DE launched, there was a lot of debates about it and if I remind well, almost everyone here said no for ranked lobbies again.
Problem is, what we gonna do when devs will stop follow the game if cheaters start to play in ranked for exemple.
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The issue is ranked lobbys ruins the integrity of the ranking system. The current system is okayish, but the top 5% or so is pretty confused and out of order.
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The current system is not ok at all for teamgames.
Which is not the competitiv part of the game, but used to be the most played...

+ if only once a dude come with a truck cheat everyday when the game will be on itself the system will just broke the game forever.

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