Current civ tier list

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What is the new tier list?
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Seems like the balance is quite good atm
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Because of my criticism some people asked/dared me to post my current tierlist, so here we go
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A tier is for those civs which I consider more competitive atm, being overall stronger in the majority of cases.
China/Brits are just solid picks with high winrate, African civs are strong 1v1 civs (atleast on land that is) with Ethiopia having one of the strongest copycat strats, Inca and India imo are stronger than average civs meaning they have more potential (I might be overrating Inca after the -100f nerf tho). A tier civs have in common being strong on most stages of the game (especially lategame) while still being able to deal with tempo strats. They have better eco/unit options than average. Basically they're civs that don't mind for the game to just reach lategame while also not being totally at the mercy of the opponent initiative. This is also why USA falls in this category.

B tier civs are good to average civs whose competitiveness relies on tempo for a good part. All semi FF civs fall in this category. Of course some might be slightly better overall, or simply have more tempo or more eco potential, but balance is close enough atm to put them in the same category. Japan is the outlier, not being a semi FF civ but being still fairly strong one. No A tier but not C tier either, so B tier. Mexico is a bit of an unknown to me. They have some strong aspects but also they seem fairly unflexible (e.g. when going for full hacienda boom).

C tier civs are civs with traditionally evident weaknesses. They're still playable and if they get the right conditions they can be actually strong but overall they're less competitive than other civs.
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I'd say aztec and lakota are probably closer to B tier.
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How is dutch C tier when can basically spam ryuters until you win? It's definetely better than french and germans, with a good turtle+CM
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Jets wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 16:52
How is dutch C tier when can basically spam ryuters until you win? It's definetely better than french and germans, with a good turtle+CM
it's because of the people who can't play against the dutch and who lose against full ruyter that the dutch sucks balls now
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I would rank Iro higher on Garja' list and india lower
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Basically no semi FF or traditional skirm/goons civs in A tier. The semi-FF lobby really needs to up its game.
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princeofkabul wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 18:12
I would rank Iro higher on Garja' list and india lower
india is really good tbh, feels like this civ is just underestimate
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@Garja tier lists should use all tiers. it's a histogram. there is always going to be an S tier civ, even if the difference between S tier and A tier is very small. similarly there is always going to be a D tier civ. not putting civs in S or D tier is misusing the tier list format imo
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Squamiger wrote:
13 Mar 2022, 08:14
@Garja tier lists should use all tiers. it's a histogram. there is always going to be an S tier civ, even if the difference between S tier and A tier is very small. similarly there is always going to be a D tier civ. not putting civs in S or D tier is misusing the tier list format imo
Not necessarily, it partially shows that the variance is rather small. There is neither an overpowered civ nor an underpowered one. They are balanced in a way they are clustered in the middle. Although the histogram has 5 bins, their size may not reflect the actual distribution.
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:hmm:
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Hhm i dont see how china is best civ right now. Rest seems fine.
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china could also be A tier. but i think they need to revert the last patch buff
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dont worry they will remake all other civs, just have to wait till christmas and it's all good
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We'll get new civs np, there is spring break, summer sale, halloween and then xmas ez
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Everything in D tier is basically me having no clue what's these civs strength atm
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haud as s tier?
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Lecastete wrote:
13 Mar 2022, 18:53
Everything in D tier is basically me having no clue what's these civs strength atm
lol this is not best civ list, this is like better known civ list
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dansil92 wrote:
13 Mar 2022, 20:26
haud as s tier?
I think it is super strong if plays correctly
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Lecastete wrote:
13 Mar 2022, 18:53
Everything in D tier is basically me having no clue what's these civs strength atm
Is it team or 1v1? If it is 1v1 from what I know Russia vs azzy is a difficult match for Russia, same thing against otto but the latter already works better, I see Russia's position much discussed, if I'm wrong tell me. Iroquois in S?
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What did they change to brit since EP ? (sorry I'm a bit lazy to read the dozens of patch note). Like why are they considered super strong now ?
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Well its more the maps that changed (more res in/near base, especially hunts)
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DayanG wrote:
14 Mar 2022, 07:09
Lecastete wrote:
13 Mar 2022, 18:53
Everything in D tier is basically me having no clue what's these civs strength atm
Is it team or 1v1? If it is 1v1 from what I know Russia vs azzy is a difficult match for Russia, same thing against otto but the latter already works better, I see Russia's position much discussed, if I'm wrong tell me. Iroquois in S?
1v1 obviously :)
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basically, this game’s civ that can make multiple tcs is so op
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