Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
- United_empires
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Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
Hi everyone, there are a lot of discussion going on about the subject, I will share my thoughts. I became aware of the topic with my friends telling me and I think that some issues should be clarified.
About the case of last night, I was the one who issued bans to several members that has been doing harrassment/trolling on playingwithsquirrelsoem since months nonstop despite the several warnings, I'm not defending nor advocate of anyone in this case but I already stated last week that The day Playwithhsquirrelsoem lost a family member, they tried to harrass him again, I indicated it in the chat and told Ezad and his crew to stop, Ezad's response was to laugh for what I wrote, and last night, as everyone witnessed, the harrassment kept going on nonstop. Callen, intentionally or not, you also kept harrassing Playwithsquirrelsoem, Surely keeping harrassment on someone who just lost a family member can be "fun" for Ezad's or Callen's standards, you can also make meme of them to get them angry, but I do believe the opposite, Everyone should respect each other, that's why I like UEC. They try to build a culture of honesty while not letting anything gray to stay in their line.
About kevin's post, I didn't know anything about the map pool, what I can say was, I strongly recommended enforcing the rule of baiting/flaming is strictly forbidden, past is past but I Wasn't satisfied the way insults/flames are handled during tournaments, and there isnt any toleration to it in aoe4 aswell, so I just asked the tournament staff to make sure everyone respects each other, that's how people build bridges.
About kaiser part, The day kynesie and himself played, Kynesie sent me all messages including the chat room where kaiser kept flaming harder again and again, Kynesie was gonna forfeit the tournament because he was mentally stressed after kaiser kept harrassing him for the entire series, as a player, kaiser is one of the best player
in this game.
I also wanna share the idea of UEC has come from Yukietty, he told me that Crabgot is volunteer to sponsor 200$ tournament every month regularly so thats how things started. Crabs intention was to make everyone feel comfortable while building bridges between everyone and help increasing popularity of aoe3, I liked the idea and gave all my support. Not only him but also other staff members, a lot of casters including widgie, lenlen, harrison, lionheart, rohbrot, tit, puggo, foquitaman, dori. Thanks to all of them, these great events are happening. As soon as UEC keep the culture of honesty and zero toleration policy against malicious intend, I will keep supporting it. Wishing best for them.
Atte: Breeze
About the case of last night, I was the one who issued bans to several members that has been doing harrassment/trolling on playingwithsquirrelsoem since months nonstop despite the several warnings, I'm not defending nor advocate of anyone in this case but I already stated last week that The day Playwithhsquirrelsoem lost a family member, they tried to harrass him again, I indicated it in the chat and told Ezad and his crew to stop, Ezad's response was to laugh for what I wrote, and last night, as everyone witnessed, the harrassment kept going on nonstop. Callen, intentionally or not, you also kept harrassing Playwithsquirrelsoem, Surely keeping harrassment on someone who just lost a family member can be "fun" for Ezad's or Callen's standards, you can also make meme of them to get them angry, but I do believe the opposite, Everyone should respect each other, that's why I like UEC. They try to build a culture of honesty while not letting anything gray to stay in their line.
About kevin's post, I didn't know anything about the map pool, what I can say was, I strongly recommended enforcing the rule of baiting/flaming is strictly forbidden, past is past but I Wasn't satisfied the way insults/flames are handled during tournaments, and there isnt any toleration to it in aoe4 aswell, so I just asked the tournament staff to make sure everyone respects each other, that's how people build bridges.
About kaiser part, The day kynesie and himself played, Kynesie sent me all messages including the chat room where kaiser kept flaming harder again and again, Kynesie was gonna forfeit the tournament because he was mentally stressed after kaiser kept harrassing him for the entire series, as a player, kaiser is one of the best player
in this game.
I also wanna share the idea of UEC has come from Yukietty, he told me that Crabgot is volunteer to sponsor 200$ tournament every month regularly so thats how things started. Crabs intention was to make everyone feel comfortable while building bridges between everyone and help increasing popularity of aoe3, I liked the idea and gave all my support. Not only him but also other staff members, a lot of casters including widgie, lenlen, harrison, lionheart, rohbrot, tit, puggo, foquitaman, dori. Thanks to all of them, these great events are happening. As soon as UEC keep the culture of honesty and zero toleration policy against malicious intend, I will keep supporting it. Wishing best for them.
Atte: Breeze
Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
the word "intention" is really doin a lot of work in this sentenceUnited_empires wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 16:27Crabs intention was to make everyone feel comfortable while building bridges between everyone
Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
As a neutral aoe3 DE content enjoyer, I'd actually like to see a level-headed response to the inconsistencies Ezad has brought up. For example what led to two different interpretations of the same breach of rules, leading to two different rulings? That in particular seemed like a valid point. Map selection seemed to be an issue, too, even for the tourney staff itself - leading to confusion about the map pool on several different occasions.
Also, it's impossible to understand what that whole pwsoem thing is supposed to be. How is that relevant to tourney decisions? Why does an abbreviation of a (lesser known) player of the community deserve bans in twitch chats? Has that been properly explained somewhere? For random content consumers, this name doesn't hold any meaning.
Also, it's impossible to understand what that whole pwsoem thing is supposed to be. How is that relevant to tourney decisions? Why does an abbreviation of a (lesser known) player of the community deserve bans in twitch chats? Has that been properly explained somewhere? For random content consumers, this name doesn't hold any meaning.
- kevinitalien
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Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
this type of post is precisely what i hate the most, there is absolutely no one who thinks of saying bad things about Playwithsquirrelsoem or who has bad thoughts behind them and everyone is sorry for him and he has my more sincere condolence but this behavior to see evil everywhere annoys me particularly and once again absolutely no one wants to hurt Playwithsquirrelsoem but i must congratulate you since you fueled even more what you wanted to stop in the beginning so the main culprit is youUnited_empires wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 16:27Hi everyone, there are a lot of discussion going on about the subject, I will share my thoughts. I became aware of the topic with my friends telling me and I think that some issues should be clarified.
About the case of last night, I was the one who issued bans to several members that has been doing harrassment/trolling on playingwithsquirrelsoem since months nonstop despite the several warnings, I'm not defending nor advocate of anyone in this case but I already stated last week that The day Playwithhsquirrelsoem lost a family member, they tried to harrass him again, I indicated it in the chat and told Ezad and his crew to stop, Ezad's response was to laugh for what I wrote, and last night, as everyone witnessed, the harrassment kept going on nonstop. Callen, intentionally or not, you also kept harrassing Playwithsquirrelsoem, Surely keeping harrassment on someone who just lost a family member can be "fun" for Ezad's or Callen's standards, you can also make meme of them to get them angry, but I do believe the opposite, Everyone should respect each other, that's why I like UEC. They try to build a culture of honesty while not letting anything gray to stay in their line.
Atte: Breeze
Also the " Atte : Breeze " means it come from breeze right, what a pussy why does he not come and write himself
Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
Say his name #freemementomori202
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Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
you know what I hate the most about that part? Hypocrisy.kevinitalien wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 16:54this type of post is precisely what i hate the most, there is absolutely no one who thinks of saying bad things about Playwithsquirrelsoem or who has bad thoughts behind them and everyone is sorry for him and he has my more sincere condolence but this behavior to see evil everywhere annoys me particularly and once again absolutely no one wants to hurt Playwithsquirrelsoem but i must congratulate you since you fueled even more what you wanted to stop in the beginning so the main culprit is youUnited_empires wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 16:27Hi everyone, there are a lot of discussion going on about the subject, I will share my thoughts. I became aware of the topic with my friends telling me and I think that some issues should be clarified.
About the case of last night, I was the one who issued bans to several members that has been doing harrassment/trolling on playingwithsquirrelsoem since months nonstop despite the several warnings, I'm not defending nor advocate of anyone in this case but I already stated last week that The day Playwithhsquirrelsoem lost a family member, they tried to harrass him again, I indicated it in the chat and told Ezad and his crew to stop, Ezad's response was to laugh for what I wrote, and last night, as everyone witnessed, the harrassment kept going on nonstop. Callen, intentionally or not, you also kept harrassing Playwithsquirrelsoem, Surely keeping harrassment on someone who just lost a family member can be "fun" for Ezad's or Callen's standards, you can also make meme of them to get them angry, but I do believe the opposite, Everyone should respect each other, that's why I like UEC. They try to build a culture of honesty while not letting anything gray to stay in their line.
Atte: Breeze
Also the " Atte : Breeze " means it come from breeze right, what a pussy why does he not come and write himself
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Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
"indicated it in the chat and told Ezad and his crew to stop, Ezad's response was to laugh for what I wrote,"
Well is there any proof for that? Would like to see so :)
Well is there any proof for that? Would like to see so :)
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Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
lets settle this like real adult
men, KEKs vs FPLC clan war
men, KEKs vs FPLC clan war
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Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
I think Len is right lets just settle it Tournament rules Bo5 End the Beef and put on a show while doing it @lenlenlena3
Classic vs Squirrel Bo5
And anyone else who wants to end some beef make your call outs
Classic vs Squirrel Bo5
And anyone else who wants to end some beef make your call outs
Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
The winner will be the clan who sets the map pool, civ rules and makes the preferential admin decisions, which is a pretty good way to do it since you don't even have to play the game.
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Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
Is this the part where people realize the esoc mafia isn't as bad as the propaganda makes it out to be
Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
Mr_Bramboy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 17:21Is this the part where people realize the esoc mafia isn't as bad as the propaganda makes it out to be
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A ridiculous notion. Alas! Many have tried to slain the mighty Beef but I survive...
Fine line to something great is a strange change.
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No. People are just pissed cuz rules weren't tailored for them. Such entitlement! Also really? After all this time people take callen seriously?Mr_Bramboy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 17:21Is this the part where people realize the esoc mafia isn't as bad as the propaganda makes it out to be
Fine line to something great is a strange change.
Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
@I_HaRRiiSoN_I lets sort this beef out, BO1 Dutch mirror South Africa Revolt only. Winner spends the night with your DadThe_Crabgot wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 17:15
And anyone else who wants to end some beef make your call outs
Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
United_empires wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 16:27
I also wanna share the idea of UEC has come from Yukietty, he told me that Crabgot is volunteer to sponsor 200$ tournament every month regularly so thats how things started.
one of the worst decisions in my life after being friends with cr*b and br*eze
PS
what does this information do with the topic of thread
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Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
So many misunderstandings and so much ego = recipe for drama. I don't know if we'll ever be able to bridge this one.
As a casual Aoe3 content consumer this is sad to see.
But at the end of the day AOE3 will keep us United <3
As a casual Aoe3 content consumer this is sad to see.
But at the end of the day AOE3 will keep us United <3
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Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
While sometimes I change my ign, type gg ez, and write short stories on ESOC, I am pretty woke and against slurs, even the r one. I wrote that several years ago on this website. It's bad breeze thinks I enjoy (ethnically?) harassing someone and that I did so specifically after I knew they'd experienced Death. It makes me think, oh shoot, does typing gg ez reflect that poorly on more serious moral matters? The internet is corruptible divorced of interpersonal reality. But there are lines.
100% I used pw-word out of affection, lore-ignorant. I did not believe I was harassing someone. No one ever told me it was bad, to stop, or anything like that. I reckon mementomori202 didn't know either. Let's use those bridges to communicate. Let's use those bridges for something.
On the whole I highly recommend everyone write a post on ESOC after they've been banned in my chat. In writing this posht I did not express a sentiment opposite. I did a "browse unban-requests" on my stream live and basically I didn't know why anyone was ever banned except jaguar_pro and the_crabgot. One of these bans was dutchdude117, who asked to be banned. I forgot to unban him for 2 years. That's injustice and I own up to it. My limbic system is strong. My frontal lobe is strong too.
My frontal lobe isn't strong enough to not repost crab's kind contribution he accidentally overwrit
Easily one of the funniest posts by our community retard Lowest_vs_SirShitter always a pleasure to read a post by this idiot crying about how unfair everyone is too him yet he is easily the most cancerous and parasitic player in the community so always refreshing to read a good ole shit post from our special little retard thanks Callen playing dumb about the pwsome thing like some 10 year old little girl just proving the point further of why we should give 0 fucks about what you cry about and when you receive 1% of what you dish out you turn to a novelist and cry on your favorite gossip website playing the victim meanwhile you ban make shit posts about people and just go around causing issues and headaches i hope your actually upset and you cry about it for a long time over your "10 second" time out maybe you can find out who guigs is too while you plan out your next special ed post?
If I were a petal
And plucked, or moth, plucked
From flowers or pollen froth
To wither on a young child’s
Display. Fetch
Me a ribbon, they, all dead
Things scream.
And plucked, or moth, plucked
From flowers or pollen froth
To wither on a young child’s
Display. Fetch
Me a ribbon, they, all dead
Things scream.
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Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
I also find a few things about the tournament really bad and I find it difficult to assume no malicious intent. but i always welcome people who do something for the community. I just don't understand why playwithsquirrles keeps initiating itself as a victim. self-perception is really bad
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I don't get it. Don't the letters just abbreviate his own nickname and nothing else? How is writing this trolling or malicious in any way? Is there a double meaning that has not yet been revealed?
POC wrote:Also I most likely know a whole lot more than you.
POC wrote:Also as an objective third party, and near 100% accuracy of giving correct information, I would say my opinions are more reliable than yours.
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I almost didn't post the post because I knew it'd get traction for wrong reasons -- the players in the finals.
@somp once tagged me for being not the type of person to do that but I did it. I take blame in tapping into a hostile environment. A sane post could have made a fool of me. Alas, sanity lacks.
@somp once tagged me for being not the type of person to do that but I did it. I take blame in tapping into a hostile environment. A sane post could have made a fool of me. Alas, sanity lacks.
If I were a petal
And plucked, or moth, plucked
From flowers or pollen froth
To wither on a young child’s
Display. Fetch
Me a ribbon, they, all dead
Things scream.
And plucked, or moth, plucked
From flowers or pollen froth
To wither on a young child’s
Display. Fetch
Me a ribbon, they, all dead
Things scream.
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Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
Maybe you can tell the the other side of the story?oldskool_bro wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 18:14I also find a few things about the tournament really bad and I find it difficult to assume no malicious intent. but i always welcome people who do something for the community. I just don't understand why playwithsquirrles keeps initiating itself as a victim. self-perception is really bad
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Re: Fair Player Cup Unfairly Banning Viewers, Unfairly Not Inquiring Unfair Players
Well I mean if my name is Veronica and someone calls me nica even though I asked them not to and I dislike it and they still do it and when they realise it upsets me a lot they do it even more.
Whats the solution? And is it reasonable for people to get punished for this or even ask them to stop?
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