Does the Inca FF actually have a counter?

[Riotcoke]

So i've been trying to play some games as malta after a decently long hiatus and like 1/3 of games I get are against someone doing a super quick FF with inca where the fort goes up and then i'm basically fucked by Hurracca + Bolas.

I can't work out what actually counters it because the hurraccas seem to basically counter everything?

[Garja]

It should be definetely counterable, as well as overall beatable without a direct counter. At least now that it has been nerfed.
With Malta try 700w 600w double rax bow pike. You can probably even catch the fort going up or alternatively just fuck up his strat big time by sieging down houses, etc.

[andrewgs]

Musk skirm is the only thing I've found that comes close to being effective late game. I'm not sure its cost efficient, I only won when I contained and had the map to gather from. Wonder how xbow would do.

If they place fort somewhere random on map, TC fire + xbow cav sort of works, if you have your houses and such behind base.

Getting the tp down helps slow them down.


chasquis can't get the fort shipped to them now, that seems new

[gibson]

yea now that the fort wagon is going to be coming from the towncenter, this strat should be easily counterable. Before its much harder cause its almost impossible to deny it.

[andrewgs]

So you have between 5:21 when 2 trading posts go up, and 7:10 when fort arrives to take out two tps to prevent it being shipped forward.

After the fort is shipped it'll be unit shipments. He has 16 vils and 50 pop in housing (10 from tc, 15x2 from kanchas, 5 x2 from tps)
To delay the first shipment of huaraca, you need to take out 2 kancha and a tp or 1 kancha and a tp.

The fort takes 24s to build with the wagon. If you don't have units right next to it, you're not sieging it down.