kevinitalien wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 12:05
imo your eco is really not that bad, you have great hunter which gives you food (12.5% of food of what you gathered + 20% gathering bonus) + the teepees which gives 10% of gathering bonus so your food income is really not bad at all ( but 5 v was prolly better tbh hard to say )and yeah i think lakota will be more aggressive now
It's definitely quite bad. Let's have a look at the pros:
- Great hunter pays you back 12.5% of the food you've gathered until it comes. In the greediest scenario, you ship it first in colonial. At that point you've gathered this from hunts : 800f for the age up, 700f to train 7 vils in age 1, minus 400f from starting crates => that's 1100f. Let's be generous and call it 2000f because of the food you gather in transition / during 40s in colo until great hunter comes in. 2000 * 0.125 = 250f.
- You can get 10% eco from teepees
- You get 100 extra wood (though chopping for a TP is slow as Sioux)
- Free tribal market places
- (I guess you get 10% yield on hunts but that's not eco per se, at least not in early game)
Now the cons:
- 1 less vil from your age 1 shipment. By the time Great Hunter comes in, that one vil would have gathered like 150 - 200f, almost the amount the card gives you
- Great Hunter now grants 5% less boost. Also it's not worth delaying the card for the 12.5% payback, since it's less than the 20% you'd get from shipping it
- You have 5 less vils in colo. Which also makes shipping Great Hunter worse (20% on 5 vils that you don't have is -1v for Great Hunter)
- You gather coin 10% slower. Unless you pay 75f 125w which is 50w more than placer mines
- In the best case, you probably have to pay for 100 - 150w of teepees to have 10% on your whole eco. And since you have less vils, that aura is worth less, definitely doesn't make up for the vil loss
So it's clear the eco is worse now. And even if you wanna greed, you need to invest resources into teepees and the coin upgrade, instead of just shipping 5v and getting a better eco anyway.
I guess you can chop for a TP in age 1 and age a vil late, and have some sort of timing thanks to the extra XP you get. But the follow up is much worse, and besides I don't even think that timing is stronger than what Sioux used to have already.
That's why I think Sioux is just gonna be shit now, and basically forced to all in. If your all in FF can deal damage you have a good follow up now I guess.