August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
Stealth change is a nerf to French again. Scout is easily revealed and killed by settlers.
Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
so i was wrong. they gave mantlets 65rr and 30 siege resist instead. thats more than a 200 ranged hp buff in all ages, and an obvious buff with siege resistance. for 160 res now...
edit: age 3 they immediately have nearly 400 ranged hp more than before. i hate this crap
edit: age 3 they immediately have nearly 400 ranged hp more than before. i hate this crap
Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
the card for that is in age 4 though, so I dont see how that is relevantdansil92 wrote: β03 Aug 2022, 03:44so i was wrong. they gave mantlets 65rr and 30 siege resist instead. thats more than a 200 ranged hp buff in all ages, and an obvious buff with siege resistance. for 160 res now...
edit: age 3 they immediately have nearly 400 ranged hp more than before. i hate this crap
Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
If you want us not to play the lakota, I think you should delete it directly
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Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
No clue, it's just the reason of that xp penalty, i guess they want us to use the basilica more which will happen less anywaysGarja wrote: β03 Aug 2022, 00:07And what does that have to do with the xp penalty?kevinitalien wrote: β02 Aug 2022, 22:46when you buy 300f 300w 300c for 3 papal lancer for exemple
XP penalty is only for the card progression.
Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
Trash patch, too many changes which ruin the game, no wonder the bye from kaiser
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Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
Tashunke Prowler: Moved to the Industrial Age (from Fortress)
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Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
I would love if they actually did that.
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Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
This is a patch that Kaiser would like actually so you dont know what you are talking about
Huge nerf to stealth (which kaiser strongly dislikes) nerfs to inca/china/Hausa which Kaiser dislikes and thinks are overpowered (Which they are) Lakota justified nerf along with some nice gameplay changes.
Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
I think interjection said its due to the basilica xp trickle and the fact you can get 3 of them pretty easily more then the shipments in the basilica - also the lombards xp tricklekevinitalien wrote: β03 Aug 2022, 07:26No clue, it's just the reason of that xp penalty, i guess they want us to use the basilica more which will happen less anywaysGarja wrote: β03 Aug 2022, 00:07And what does that have to do with the xp penalty?kevinitalien wrote: β02 Aug 2022, 22:46when you buy 300f 300w 300c for 3 papal lancer for exemple
XP penalty is only for the card progression.
Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
Can you actually get 3 with the card? Isn't it 1+1?
Anyway even with the Basilica card and let's say 4 lombards, it isn't just worth it. It barely repays the shipment while forcing you on a non realistic BO (atleast for 1v1). Maybe in treaty, but I don't think shipment progression is that much of a problem there?
It's just one of those compromise changes that make no sense. Italy just isn't an xp civ.
Anyway even with the Basilica card and let's say 4 lombards, it isn't just worth it. It barely repays the shipment while forcing you on a non realistic BO (atleast for 1v1). Maybe in treaty, but I don't think shipment progression is that much of a problem there?
It's just one of those compromise changes that make no sense. Italy just isn't an xp civ.
Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
you get 1 extra with the shipment and another one with the church tech - the church tech is free so it kinda builds on each otherGarja wrote: β03 Aug 2022, 14:22Can you actually get 3 with the card? Isn't it 1+1?
Anyway even with the Basilica card and let's say 4 lombards, it isn't just worth it. It barely repays the shipment while forcing you on a non realistic BO (atleast for 1v1). Maybe in treaty, but I don't think shipment progression is that much of a problem there?
It's just one of those compromise changes that make no sense. Italy just isn't an xp civ.
Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
There is also the fact that the architect is kinda a free xp trickle every time a building completes which could leads to some balance trouble with just getting free xp, though tbh i havent noticed, though that might be because the xp penalty is already in place
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The amount of stuff built is about the same as other civs, so there is no xp inflation due to the architect.
Anyway, even if Italy was an xp farm civ (which it clearly isn't) I don't see the point of penalizing it. You don't have a negative compensation for Aztecs or Ottomans.
Anyway, even if Italy was an xp farm civ (which it clearly isn't) I don't see the point of penalizing it. You don't have a negative compensation for Aztecs or Ottomans.
Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
i was misinformed twice i guess, i was told the 65rr was a default change, not a card. still could be pretty oppressive if used in conjunction with 7 mantlet infinite. we will see what happens I guesshelln00 wrote: β03 Aug 2022, 04:32the card for that is in age 4 though, so I dont see how that is relevantdansil92 wrote: β03 Aug 2022, 03:44so i was wrong. they gave mantlets 65rr and 30 siege resist instead. thats more than a 200 ranged hp buff in all ages, and an obvious buff with siege resistance. for 160 res now...
edit: age 3 they immediately have nearly 400 ranged hp more than before. i hate this crap
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Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
Indeed, War chief will be from hero to zero reeeallly quickly.
needs either cover mode or be affected by the healing dance again. cant take away both. gonna suck hard like this. why would you go for hero cards now? seems like they take this option away with this nerf. might aswell delete him completely from the civ now.
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Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
i dont think a civ should rely on it's chronically resurrected 10,000 hp tank that can also be fast snare and snipe art
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Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
The civ doesn't rely on that. Nubs who play the civ rely on that. And nubs who play against it, find it hard to beat (even tho it is admittedly quite annoying).
The African hero changes are worse anyway.
The African hero changes are worse anyway.
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Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
Doesn't really matter beyond specific strats. Refer to my guide.helln00 wrote: β03 Aug 2022, 13:35I think interjection said its due to the basilica xp trickle and the fact you can get 3 of them pretty easily more then the shipments in the basilica - also the lombards xp tricklekevinitalien wrote: β03 Aug 2022, 07:26No clue, it's just the reason of that xp penalty, i guess they want us to use the basilica more which will happen less anywaysShow hidden quotes
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Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
So why do French still cannot train native scouts from TC/explorer? Envoy, discipline, eagle scout and Spanish dog can be trained again. I used to set a scout toward enemy base (in front of barrack/stable) to scout his unit combo, but it's impossible now.
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Why can't I upgrade my War Wagons into proper Panzers, now that even the Italians got an early carro armato?
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Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
Because it's not a French exclusive support unit. It's a native unit given to French at the start of the game.
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Re: August Update β Build # 100.13.16662.0
so when are the walls going to be nerfed?
if put up a wall and use a civilization with a strong economy, player will definitely win
must increase costs
if put up a wall and use a civilization with a strong economy, player will definitely win
must increase costs
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