Age of Empires III: Definitive Edition - Update 13.27885

[callentournies]

we didn't know how good we had it with zoi (well I did)

[iamgaming]

It has gone too far, will go too far..

[Synchro]

Why did they remove the Inventor and the Mohawk Statesman politicians for all civs !?

Also 4 Axe Riders... to 3..

I try to guess. They are too colonial to annoy the natives.

[aaryngend]

Why did they remove the Inventor and the Mohawk Statesman politicians for all civs !?

Also 4 Axe Riders... to 3..

I try to guess. They are too colonial to annoy the natives.

The Mohawk seems to be too clichée for Iroquois/Hauds but the inventor? I guess the inventor had to go because the Balloon cards got reworked.

[helln00]

Why did they remove the Inventor and the Mohawk Statesman politicians for all civs !?

Also 4 Axe Riders... to 3..

I try to guess. They are too colonial to annoy the natives.

The Mohawk seems to be too clichée for Iroquois/Hauds but the inventor? I guess the inventor had to go because the Balloon cards got reworked.

considering that the replacements (atleast for port iirc) is still native theme I'm guessing they are just going to make more specialised ones now

[duckzilla]

I'm happy about the scale of changes as well as many - not all - details.

[GuiliuG]

Some of the changes are great but overall, the game is just getting more casual than ever…

[princeofkabul]

What is this shit?

[ShinkuroYukinari]

i have to say, France feels smoother than ever in team games. BTW, will House of Nassau 1st be the new Dutch team meta? I can see it outperforming 3 vils in 3v3/4v4

[Kaiserklein]

What a pile of utter garbage

[iNcog]

It's a joke. It is a wonder that redbull pretends the game doesn't exist

[iNcog]

I am sure they are making money by selling dlcs to new players and noobers. The business strategy is working. There just wasn't any money in giving a shit about high level play

[fei123456]

TLDR: Osmane>all
Native/African are unplayable now.

[iNcog]

Come to aoe4. the game isn't perfect but it's quite a good title to play competitively. they have custom hotkeys now

[Synchro]

Why did they remove the Inventor and the Mohawk Statesman politicians for all civs !?

Also 4 Axe Riders... to 3..

I try to guess. They are too colonial to annoy the natives.

The Mohawk seems to be too clichée for Iroquois/Hauds but the inventor? I guess the inventor had to go because the Balloon cards got reworked.

I guess so even if I don't do anything with a balloon, I have the explorer to explore.

[Synchro]

What is this shit?

You have already given yourself the answer.

[helln00]

tbh after actually digesting this a bit

Otto supremacy aside

its basically the same for Euro civs

African civs got nerfed

US got nerfed

Mexico small nerf

small buff to spain

japan is...eh weird though doing the math i cant ever imagine being anything but a meme like tupac rebellion, except you basically cant rebuild either

Italy is nerfed

Barbary is basically gone

Old french consulate is back

oddly enough french muskets is buffed ( not the promotion thing)

port finally has a start (even if they havent added it yet)

I welcome the ele obstruction radius change - the sepoy thing needs a relook

haud treaty is nerfed - manlet resist and north american trade

lakota nerfed

china is basically the same - they wont dare touch that for a while

[Le Hussard sur le toit]

Wow they touched an historical card of aoe3: boyar nerfed to 10%

Sad strelet face.

[Le Hussard sur le toit]

Why would they take out the 4 Mamelukes cards from Ports ? That's an iconic card and Ports really need it to get a timing push in fortress.

[Le Hussard sur le toit]

So, time for esoc patch 2 ?

[iNcog]

So, time for esoc patch 2 ?

I'd probably play again if this happened BUT I also don't see anyone putting in the time and effort for it. and after the way zoi was treated, I don't think anyone else will

[ShinkuroYukinari]

Why would they take out the 4 Mamelukes cards from Ports ? That's an iconic card and Ports really need it to get a timing push in fortress.

Likely cause they're getting some early game love and 3 Organ guns with target lock, which will make 4 Mams on top rather excessive.

[Rednote]

It’s because from a historical standpoint Mamelukes would be fighting against the Ports, not for them. It was a history over gameplay move.

[richard]

It’s because from a historical standpoint Mamelukes would be fighting against the Ports, not for them. It was a history over gameplay move.

It is said that there were 5 Mamelukes fighting for Ports too though. Historically proven.

[DNLgibraltar]

TLDR: Osmane>all
Native/African are unplayable now.

Natives are fairly good.

Hausa is probably playable.

Ethiopia trashed again: those global nerfs actually make it harder playing strategies other than the cheesy ones. I've never played outlaw or native rush, but then my randomized/ situational BO git even worse.