Possible map hack

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You're completely shifting the goal posts, we've been talking about this single rec and now you're talking about other stuff. Post more recs if you're sure he's hacking and it will be fairly obvious. Is he checking mines/hunts where there are no vils or is he always just running to where vils are. As kaiser has already stated I dont think anyone would be shocked to find out he was cheating, but evidence still needs to be provided.
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Ye I've been watching some other rec mine and against others, won't post not worth, you won't find conclusive evidence ofc.
I'm just replying to your conclusive statement of "you always get lucky and suspicious situations in every game from everyone" which is simply not the case. Yes there are some but not nowhere near the amount you get against him.
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For all his faults, one thing that osteo does very well is that he is is always "actively" using his units (you can see this just by playing against his inca and not walling). The more you're up and about on the map, the more likely you are to get "lucky" and find something. I know that I myself was accused several times of MH when smurfing back on TAD - of course that is partially due to experience and game sense, but having an "active" playstyle instead of a "passive" one does change things a bit.
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Aizamk wrote:
01 Mar 2024, 09:10
For all his faults, one thing that osteo does very well is that he is is always "actively" using his units (you can see this just by playing against his inca and not walling). The more you're up and about on the map, the more likely you are to get "lucky" and find something. I know that I myself was accused several times of MH when smurfing back on TAD - of course that is partially due to experience and game sense, but having an "active" playstyle instead of a "passive" one does change things a bit.
Having an Aizamk post after days and its about osteo, this guy must be proud of himself!
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Garja wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 16:45
Everything is nice and cool, except you guys keep saying that blind luck or such "happens almost every single game with people who aren't cheating" which is simply not the case. I can't name one person that consistently finds every single villager exactly when they're moved to the next hunt or mine and I've played the game since forever. Actually one person comes to mind and guess what, he also MHed at one point. Surely you can have a playstyle that completely revolves around raiding opponent's eco but maybe that's exactly because you have some sort of extra vision.
u should keep complaining about your opponent instead of blaming urself with such shit game knowledge.
That's it.
Running all around is my playstyle.
Looks like u just suck at counter it.
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mirmydon wrote:
01 Mar 2024, 13:18
Garja wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 16:45
Everything is nice and cool, except you guys keep saying that blind luck or such "happens almost every single game with people who aren't cheating" which is simply not the case. I can't name one person that consistently finds every single villager exactly when they're moved to the next hunt or mine and I've played the game since forever. Actually one person comes to mind and guess what, he also MHed at one point. Surely you can have a playstyle that completely revolves around raiding opponent's eco but maybe that's exactly because you have some sort of extra vision.
u should keep complaining about your opponent instead of blaming urself with such shit game knowledge.
That's it.
Running all around is my playstyle.
Looks like u just suck at counter it.
It also would seem that your play-style is predicting the exact path of a freshly spawned Fort Wagon ("outside" of your vision) 3 times in the span of 2 seconds. It's pretty good, I'm not going to lie.
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Struggling Hedonist wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 11:04
Noone's saying that he has permanent & total map vision.
Well that's literally what a maphack is, idk what more to tell you.
Struggling Hedonist wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 11:04
The guy clearly either didn't know where the fort would go before it arrived, or has learned how to, on a basic level, conceal maphacking from 15 years of experience (note how the fort was never remotely in danger of making it). That's the far likelier explanation.
Sure, he could be concealing it. But in this specific rec he would be hiding it so well that he basically takes no advantage from the maphack, which would become nonsensical. Like again, he could send pikes straight on the torped mines, no one would call that maphacking. Yet he's just checking empty coin mines. He could also head towards the good treasures without being too obvious about it, yet he just did not. We're really just simply lacking concrete evidence here.
On a side note, the fort could have totally made it but Garja fucked up.
Struggling Hedonist wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 11:04
You'd have to be a dunce to think that it doesn't prove anything. You should know better than this, which is more than can be said for the other people to whom I replied, as well as those of us who liked your post—also Myrmidons.
Thing is it literally does not prove anything lol. Like there is zero proof here. It's only suspicious at best. I honestly don't have anything to add here.
And I think I know enough about maphacks and just the way the game works in general to be confident here.
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Kaiserklein wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 23:39
Struggling Hedonist wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 11:04
Noone's saying that he has permanent & total map vision.
Well that's literally what a maphack is, idk what more to tell you.
Struggling Hedonist wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 11:04
The guy clearly either didn't know where the fort would go before it arrived, or has learned how to, on a basic level, conceal maphacking from 15 years of experience (note how the fort was never remotely in danger of making it). That's the far likelier explanation.
Sure, he could be concealing it. But in this specific rec he would be hiding it so well that he basically takes no advantage from the maphack, which would become nonsensical. Like again, he could send pikes straight on the torped mines, no one would call that maphacking. Yet he's just checking empty coin mines. He could also head towards the good treasures without being too obvious about it, yet he just did not. We're really just simply lacking concrete evidence here.
On a side note, the fort could have totally made it but Garja fucked up.
Struggling Hedonist wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 11:04
You'd have to be a dunce to think that it doesn't prove anything. You should know better than this, which is more than can be said for the other people to whom I replied, as well as those of us who liked your post—also Myrmidons.
Thing is it literally does not prove anything lol. Like there is zero proof here. It's only suspicious at best. I honestly don't have anything to add here.
And I think I know enough about maphacks and just the way the game works in general to be confident here.
As fair as I know, actually map hack was either having opponent's los or the spyglass spam. Basically all the cheats where based on some in game existent mechanic rather than some coding magic.
He does always go for the best treasures btw but, among all the things, I find that one the least suspect as DE maps are very predictable and if you play a lot you quickly learn where to go with the explorer.
Fort could have NOT make it once it was spotted and snared. If I drop it like I did, it obviously get canceled in one hit. If I keep going he just kills the wagon since 10 caros don't kill 5 pikes fast enough.
Anyway him actively seeking for the fort is already suspicious in itself, and correcting the war chief path midway just to follow the travois out of los is laughable, especially in game where it was a total wtf moment.
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lol you just so bad garja
u could have easier save your fort but ya u sucked that game.
Not really my fault
Not expecting pik on your goldmine is playing like a corporal (no more tbh)
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Re: Possible map hack

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Ye sure gl saving the fort there once it's snared. Also who ever said I don't expect the pikes on gold mine? The fort wasn't even going there.
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