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I would like to improve my knowledge of India, besides what is already on the strategy wall. Does someone have an idea of where I could find other (or more recent) BOs ?
Also, I like to watch Aizamk playing Indians on Twitch but find difficult to replicate his strats. Are there other good India players out there who I could learn from ?
Thanks :smile:
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Check out the recent Challenge Cup: most of the games should be on youtube by now. If you click on a match you'll find the corresponding video. challenge-cup/groups

I know the finals had at least one India game in them, but unfortunately the masses have decided that India just not a very good civ right now so they are underrepresented in recent tournaments.
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Yeah, hard to replicate Aiz's playstyle. I saw Don Artie streaming some India yesterday, there is also sepoyguy, I assume he only plays India. Aykin aka Tit also plays India. Top players like Knusch and Hazza also play it, but I haven't seen them stream recently.
I'm guessing you read Wicked's guide, it helped me a lot.
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Thanks for your answers, I'll look it up. Yeah I read Wicked's guide, it's a goldmine !
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My Ideas about india, is this what you are looking for?



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Wasn't there some youtube video where miggo and someone else did nothing but talk about india for over an hour? Should be a good starting point.
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If you find it useful this was released about 3 hours ago, it is not from the current patch but from the previous one :smile:
Many people believe that a strategy is not feasible so that it is not made by the Pro, well the professionals themselves have created the strategies that were previously thought not to be feasible, everything is feasible as long as the strategy works ^_^
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For the record, I found a video from Haitch explaining how to counter Portugal on water maps:
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aaryngend wrote:Wasn't there some youtube video where miggo and someone else did nothing but talk about india for over an hour? Should be a good starting point.
Found it:
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Thanks for sharing guys! I just watched @Youssef video (will watch the other later) and that's a sweet push.
Two questions: 1/ what's the follow-up after sending 700g, aging or producing more units ? and 2/ was it intentional to stay with the Ottoman consulate ? I would have switched to British one for health bonus but I might miss something.
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good topic.. i have some games in my stream.
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P4blit0 wrote:Thanks for sharing guys! I just watched @Youssef video (will watch the other later) and that's a sweet push.
Two questions: 1/ what's the follow-up after sending 700g, aging or producing more units ? and 2/ was it intentional to stay with the Ottoman consulate ? I would have switched to British one for health bonus but I might miss something.
in this case was going to ship tiger, but usually after 5 sepoy I go for big trickle or 700w and get 4vills from otto consulate, market ups, build a stable and change army composition to gurkha sowar zamb. I think is better stay colonial in this build
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Youssef wrote:in this case was going to ship tiger, but usually after 5 sepoy I go for big trickle or 700w and get 4vills from otto consulate, market ups, build a stable and change army composition to gurkha sowar zamb. I think is better stay colonial in this build
Cool, I was wondering when to drop the market. Gonna give it a try!
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look wrote:good topic.. i have some games in my stream.
I watched some. You never age up with 14 vills do you ? I also notice you don't always build a market in transition, in which situations do you prefer not to ?
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P4blit0 wrote:
look wrote:good topic.. i have some games in my stream.
I watched some. You never age up with 14 vills do you ? I also notice you don't always build a market in transition, in which situations do you prefer not to ?
The standard India age 1 opening is 15 vills (gather wood for 14 + 1 from the shipment). Market opening in transition is also standard, but you can substitute it with a TP. The decision is dependent on your build. If you want to get to fortress quickly a TP is useful. A TP is also used in more greedy builds, for example, Good Faith Agreements (age 1 card), but you need to be wary of what your opponent is doing. It comes down to the feel you have for the game.
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P4blit0 wrote:
look wrote:good topic.. i have some games in my stream.
I watched some. You never age up with 14 vills do you ? I also notice you don't always build a market in transition, in which situations do you prefer not to ?
The standard India age 1 opening is 15 vills (gather wood for 14 + 1 from the shipment). Market opening in transition is also standard, but you can substitute it with a TP. The decision is dependent on your build. If you want to get to fortress quickly a TP is useful. A TP is also used in more greedy builds, for example, Good Faith Agreements (age 1 card), but you need to be wary of what your opponent is doing. It comes down to the feel you have for the game.
I usually do as stated in WickedCossacks guide and age up with 14, but in look_tom's streams he starts aging up with 12 vills, and sometimes builds the market early- or mid-age II, as well as a consulate. I like this BO because it puts pressure earlier, seemingly without sacrificing eco.
Example here, the first game: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1001341308
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Really liked that game @look ! @P4blit0 - the Pro2Casual video I recorded with Tit and Miggo - We talk water/land etc India and all card choices and build orders. Its more longform podcast style. But it does have gameplay as well.
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P4blit0 wrote:
look wrote:good topic.. i have some games in my stream.
I watched some. You never age up with 14 vills do you ? I also notice you don't always build a market in transition, in which situations do you prefer not to ?
when I rush hard
normaly without 14 vills to focus on fast rush..
but depends against who/civ u are playing..
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