Need help with Spain
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Need help with Spain
All these games i lost.
Spain vs Dutch:Idk what i could have done better just did normal ff into SG and was massing units but he had more mass than me during fight couldn't do much and lost most of my units there ,should i have played more aggressive? my unit control was poor with lancers+rods+dogs+some pikes in 1 group idk how do i split group so many units so i couldn't snare also coz of this and he ez kiting me.
Before this game he did some awkward stuff i didn't expect ....he aged faster went x2 pike rush and did timing attack and right click my tc dodged tower also ,idk what to do once my tc got down ,I had 4 tps with sc ,made rods huss he did pikes & skrims but i resigned coz he had more army & army and couldn't win fights ,what i should have done here?
The won first game vs him by playing aggressive in fortress, so ended up 1-2 loss against him ,whos raisyno?
Spain vs Brits::Honestly idk what he was doing but i did Semi FI but he went straight FI we both pushed out once we got good amount of art but i just messsed up micro so hard & lost but apart from that i feel like i could have went naked FI he just made some 5 cav only so idk how to adapt to passive playstyle like this coz im scared of timing push in age 3.Any tips?
Spain vs India:Man this guy ezclapped me ,he had water deck but i didn't see any dock but he took 4 tps and stole 1 also my side i later got sc +SG and went musks+lancers & pushed with falcs seeing up hes late to fortress and made no army he just make howdahs popped urumis and my army got cleaned later i stuck to the composition for some reason and pushed again to stomp'd ,idk i thought he would go gurkhas +zambs if some guy plays unstandard idk what to do i feel like i could have won ,maybe skrims goons?
Spain vs Dutch:Idk what i could have done better just did normal ff into SG and was massing units but he had more mass than me during fight couldn't do much and lost most of my units there ,should i have played more aggressive? my unit control was poor with lancers+rods+dogs+some pikes in 1 group idk how do i split group so many units so i couldn't snare also coz of this and he ez kiting me.
Before this game he did some awkward stuff i didn't expect ....he aged faster went x2 pike rush and did timing attack and right click my tc dodged tower also ,idk what to do once my tc got down ,I had 4 tps with sc ,made rods huss he did pikes & skrims but i resigned coz he had more army & army and couldn't win fights ,what i should have done here?
The won first game vs him by playing aggressive in fortress, so ended up 1-2 loss against him ,whos raisyno?
Spain vs Brits::Honestly idk what he was doing but i did Semi FI but he went straight FI we both pushed out once we got good amount of art but i just messsed up micro so hard & lost but apart from that i feel like i could have went naked FI he just made some 5 cav only so idk how to adapt to passive playstyle like this coz im scared of timing push in age 3.Any tips?
Spain vs India:Man this guy ezclapped me ,he had water deck but i didn't see any dock but he took 4 tps and stole 1 also my side i later got sc +SG and went musks+lancers & pushed with falcs seeing up hes late to fortress and made no army he just make howdahs popped urumis and my army got cleaned later i stuck to the composition for some reason and pushed again to stomp'd ,idk i thought he would go gurkhas +zambs if some guy plays unstandard idk what to do i feel like i could have won ,maybe skrims goons?
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maybe you should refer to your spain guide
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Man lost again i did ff into skrims rods and lost he took positive KD idk im such bad at fighting idk how to react in fights it's just not going well @chronique what i need to do?
I didn't even know he had dopps i just go in and z move..
I didn't even know he had dopps i just go in and z move..
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Lost again to sepoy rush and age 2 india ,what to do here? feels helpless ,i should just not do a naked ff vs rush ? @Garja
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Can't you ship rods, do mm and pop 8 xbow with dogs? Poisson said you could hold HI rushes ez now.
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I did still doesn't work lol someone should see the record ,i was unable to pop mm+dogs coz i was garrisoned and any vill i pop out he right click it i did manage to sneak some vills but still hopeless..chris1089 wrote:Can't you ship rods, do mm and pop 8 xbow with dogs? Poisson said you could hold HI rushes ez now.
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And also died to x2 pike rush by dutch today....
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Fcking beast man ,5 unit control groups i would have lost that game if i were you.
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8xbow age up does nothing alone vs a timing of HI, u need meatshield, like rods + dog + hero + mm if u can afford. But its hard when u have shitty herds or herds which are walking far away from your tc, to actually have enough food to make 5 dogs + call mm.Challenger_Marco wrote:I did still doesn't work lol someone should see the record ,i was unable to pop mm+dogs coz i was garrisoned and any vill i pop out he right click it i did manage to sneak some vills but still hopeless..chris1089 wrote:Can't you ship rods, do mm and pop 8 xbow with dogs? Poisson said you could hold HI rushes ez now.
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By the time i aged he had 4 sowars so my xbows died ...and even if i tried to gather he just denies coz 1 taps my vills.Rohbrot wrote:8xbow age up does nothing alone vs a timing of HI, u need meatshield, like rods + dog + hero + mm if u can afford. But its hard when u have shitty herds or herds which are walking far away from your tc, to actually have enough food to make 5 dogs + call mm.Challenger_Marco wrote:I did still doesn't work lol someone should see the record ,i was unable to pop mm+dogs coz i was garrisoned and any vill i pop out he right click it i did manage to sneak some vills but still hopeless..chris1089 wrote:Can't you ship rods, do mm and pop 8 xbow with dogs? Poisson said you could hold HI rushes ez now.
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btw where is spain guide 1.0?
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Ye, and he could actually get 3 Gärtner just 1-2 mins later in top of 4sowar. Its hard against a timing of india, try to send 700w first and train 5 musk age like 30sec later but u will atleast not lose vills or gather time.Challenger_Marco wrote:By the time i aged he had 4 sowars so my xbows died ...and even if i tried to gather he just denies coz 1 taps my vills.Rohbrot wrote:8xbow age up does nothing alone vs a timing of HI, u need meatshield, like rods + dog + hero + mm if u can afford. But its hard when u have shitty herds or herds which are walking far away from your tc, to actually have enough food to make 5 dogs + call mm.Show hidden quotes
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/825277853Challenger_Marco wrote:btw where is spain guide 1.0?
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That is one of the best games I have seenknusch wrote:https://www.twitch.tv/videos/825277853Challenger_Marco wrote:btw where is spain guide 1.0?
I love seeing players use xbow pike
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Work in progressChallenger_Marco wrote:btw where is spain guide 1.0?
@knusch you are my inspiration!! I will save time and rename that guide "do what knush do because what he is doing is perfect and words can't translate it"
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I did ff into SG 3 tp sc but still lost against ports ,what should i have done?
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What was your unit composition and what age was ports?Challenger_Marco wrote:I did ff into SG 3 tp sc but still lost against ports ,what should i have done?
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You're supposed to be more aggressive than that vs ports
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
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1) On patagonia, always atp ff, you have 3 free tp in back
2) If you tp first (like you did here) in transi to age 2 you MUST market + hd or take an other tp, here you clic age 3 with 1500f
(but on patagonia you must have all tp before reaching age 2 ^^)
3) vs port don't build your tower in base (he build his second tc next to the first)
4) don't train musket
5) you need to put some pressure to him, you stay in base the whole game
2) If you tp first (like you did here) in transi to age 2 you MUST market + hd or take an other tp, here you clic age 3 with 1500f
(but on patagonia you must have all tp before reaching age 2 ^^)
3) vs port don't build your tower in base (he build his second tc next to the first)
4) don't train musket
5) you need to put some pressure to him, you stay in base the whole game
Re: Need help with Spain
Against this kind of turtle, maybe you can try flooding belli or a lot of falc. But take care with culv and mamelouk.
Unlocking motar at age III and fast falc can help.
Or maybe FI
Unlocking motar at age III and fast falc can help.
Or maybe FI
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Also I think it is important to destroy the port age 3 tp as soon as port is reaching age 3
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