vs lakota

[chronique]

An other lose, no idea how play against this civ, also atp card is very bad now because atp don't shot, i lose 2 atp vs 5 mid life club man...

[harcha]

what did I miss, why doesn't ATP shoot?

[Hawk_Girl]

play dutch and win ez

[Challenger_Marco]

have you tried xbow/pike indus?

[Rohbrot]

An other lose, no idea how play against this civ, also atp card is very bad now because atp don't shot, i lose 2 atp vs 5 mid life club man...

The lobby which were against ATP's power won, it seems.

[SoldieR]

Are you sure atp doesnt shoot?

[chronique]

Ok atp is bugged lol, they shot but with less than 6 range (ui said 8 but that's not true) so you get outrange'd by all unit ahah

[[Armag] diarouga]

Ye ATP is bugged, it doesn't shoot.

[ShinkuroYukinari]

1. Scout what building they build. Usually it's a Stable, given how Lakhota cavalry is very strong.
2. Their defences will be god-awful due to no walls nor houses, which means you can raid them efficiently unless they train Bow Riders to stop you.
3. Generally Musketeers are nice, given how Cetans are weak and Bow Riders don't have bonuses vs them.
4. Watch out for them switching Axe Riders to Rifle Riders, cause it will punish your comp hard. pair the Musks with Xbows just in case.
5. Xbow-Pike is an option too, and a more straight-forward one, but due to Lakhota mobility those Pikes might end up being arrow-fodder(to quote Trax) for the most part
6. Scout mines and hunts. If the Lakhota is going cavalry, they will be devouring that like it's me at an Indian restaurant, forcing him to spread out. You can punish that with raids of your own, provided you know where those vils are. Lakhota really can't afford to switch to Farms.

[Kaiserklein]

1. Scout what building they build. Usually it's a Stable, given how Lakhota cavalry is very strong.
2. Their defences will be god-awful due to no walls nor houses, which means you can raid them efficiently unless they train Bow Riders to stop you.
3. Generally Musketeers are nice, given how Cetans are weak and Bow Riders don't have bonuses vs them.
4. Watch out for them switching Axe Riders to Rifle Riders, cause it will punish your comp hard. pair the Musks with Xbows just in case.
5. Xbow-Pike is an option too, and a more straight-forward one, but due to Lakhota mobility those Pikes might end up being arrow-fodder(to quote Trax) for the most part
6. Scout mines and hunts. If the Lakhota is going cavalry, they will be devouring that like it's me at an Indian restaurant, forcing him to spread out. You can punish that with raids of your own, provided you know where those vils are. Lakhota really can't afford to switch to Farms.

You can't raid sioux because they'll just catch you and you'll waste your units. Also spain is shit at raiding anyway.
You also can't rush / push in colo because they're faster and have better units than you. Also cetans aren't weak, and bow riders do alright vs musks.
Also they don't really need a lot of gold and food because their eco sucks so they'll deplete resources slowly.

[chronique]

I don't know if this game would have been different without atp bug but my biggest problem is there are some map with not so much hunt in base and against lakota it's a disaster

[Rohbrot]

I don't know if this game would have been different without atp bug but my biggest problem is there are some map with not so much hunt in base and against lakota it's a disaster

Most of the RE maps have shitty herds, ozarks for example. Dev's should fix this issue after they fix actually the main problems...

[harcha]

ozarks is playable

[Rohbrot]

ozarks is playable

It's like RE ozarks, they did not improve the balance on the map. You have 1 near herd and one far, where ep maps have at least 2 near herds.

[n0el]

ozarks has 2 safe herds now

[Rohbrot]

ozarks has 2 safe herds now

How save? I just watched some hours ago the newest vid of ageofstreaming and one herd is in north-east (which is save) and one in south or south-west ( which is arguably but imo not save). 3rd herd is on the other half of the map (if you spawn top its east) and the other way if you spawn south.

[Kaiserklein]

Ozarks actually sometimes almost have too many hunts lol

[Rohbrot]

Ozarks actually sometimes almost have too many hunts lol

Yeah, it can be. I just watch many streams and vids in which i can see the maps, there i saw that ozarks has 1 save herd (2nd one is more away than it should be imo) and 3rd herd is far like it was the case in RE. That means that the randomness of the maps are the case in every map spawn (what is actually good for not being bored after 3x the same map) but not so good for balance.

[chronique]

Ozark is unfair but the starting hunt is enough, pantagonia is still meh imo

[n0el]

Ozarks actually sometimes almost have too many hunts lol

This is also how I feel tbh

[Garja]

Ozark hunts are in fixed places now and yes it's too many when the deer in front also walk toward the TC. It's like 3 hunts + the starting one.

[Skwizz_Jehuty]

Hey
No canon vs Lakota, their powerfull cav kick it in 2 sec.
Immo the speed of cav+warchief is a big issue, and 1.5 rate of fire of archery cav is just insane!

[88_Baron_Rojo_88]

When you send unction, make sure you only do 9 missionaries in the church if you do 10 automatically the card is canceled so that you do not have 11 when you receive the shipment, you had no unction at any time of the final matches lol