Dutch vs Ottoman 1100 Elo (need advice)

[Sir Spartalot 1_Peeker]

Hello there,
I would like to know how I can win against this ottoman army. I might have added Falconets against his inf. But the main problem was his cav it is so super tanky and unkillable. Im happy for any advice :)

[callentournies]

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[Squamiger]

tried to open the rec, game doesnt let me. what patch was this game played on?

[Squamiger]

basically these days with so many patches i suggest that if you want feedback on gameplay, record it with obs and upload it to youtube, or stream on twitch if you comp can handle it

[Sir Spartalot 1_Peeker]

basically these days with so many patches i suggest that if you want feedback on gameplay, record it with obs and upload it to youtube, or stream on twitch if you comp can handle it

Yeah thanks for the advice. I guess capturing the games with obs and uploading them to youtube is a good idea. The other thing is just playing more. It sometimes is just rather hard to find out how a matchup should be played properly especially for a new player like me. It's strange that the replay doesn't work. It is from the latest patch .50830 yesterday. But having redownloaded this file from the website it doesn't work either. The Original however still does....

[aligator92]

From what I read, Otto went Janissary+Cav. You can beat that by making Skirnisher+Ruyter. But you need to kite. So shoot a Jan with the skirms and move back. Shoot a Cav with Ruyter and move back. Repeat.

[Squamiger]

Hello there,
I would like to know how I can win against this ottoman army. I might have added Falconets against his inf. But the main problem was his cav it is so super tanky and unkillable. Im happy for any advice :)

i guarantee you that 90% of the time at your level, you lose here bc you're too slow. It's not that I'm saying your actions per minute are too slow, its that you're prioritizing the wrong things so your progressions in shipments and ages and unit timings are delayed more than they should be. I think if you just focus on following a bot dutch build order to FF at the right time (assuming he is also FF'ing), you can win. 3 vill -> 700w -> 1 bank wagon -> 600w. Make 4 banks by 6 minutes and then age up to 3 or train units in age 2 if he's pushing you then.

as for unit composition, if he's going jan+huss+mams, you can almost just spam full ruyter. maybe make 70% ruyter, 30% skirm.

[callentournies]

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[kaister]

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[Riotcoke]

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[Sensei]

Someone woke up on the wrong page of the ELO ladder this morning

[Cometk]

Free these boys

[gibson]

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[gibson]

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[gibson]

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[Hazza54321]

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[jesus3]

I'm starting to believe that gaining more elo could be the right call here

[Challenger_Marco]

lol why are people getting banned & warned for this while in other threads the toxicity reached far beyond the point ?? clearly whoever running esoc moderation is moderating as per their wish and what they think is right without following/consulting a set of rules.

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[Rohbrot]

Let's get the bans rolling

[gagootz]

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[uberjz]

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[dansil92]

what happened here

[Guigs]

A bunch of snowflakes are taking esoc over

[Mr_Bramboy]

Good way to introduce these forums to a new player.