Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Been playing Hausa for a while. I think its a both african civs are the D grade, probably needs buff.
Some recorded game play.
Overall Age3 DE is unbalanced, some older civs needs nerfing.
Some recorded game play.
Overall Age3 DE is unbalanced, some older civs needs nerfing.
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Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Clearly Hausa needs nerf since it has 100% win rate from this significant simple random sample.
Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Imo it's super based to have your allegations backed up by evidence that supports precisely the opposite
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Lol,i posted only winning matches. My win rate is just at 52%. Hausa can never win a water map. It always loses to a top level 1800+ player any civ, which is why none of the top 20 players
play hausa.
For example Kynesie historically only played japan and reached top 10 with 80% win rate, now thats OP.
play hausa.
For example Kynesie historically only played japan and reached top 10 with 80% win rate, now thats OP.
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Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Hasn't your elo gone up like 300-400 since you started playing Hausa? Kind of suggests the opposite - not saying you're not a good player, but the civ is clearly pretty good too
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Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Says a civ is underpowered.
Uploads 5653 victories with the civ.
Also, ego rec.
Uploads 5653 victories with the civ.
Also, ego rec.
ESOC : came for the game, stayed for the drama.
Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
exactly lol he was 1300elo in DecemberPatrickLFC wrote: ↑31 Jan 2022, 09:40Hasn't your elo gone up like 300-400 since you started playing Hausa? Kind of suggests the opposite - not saying you're not a good player, but the civ is clearly pretty good too
Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Briefly compare 3 Lifidi Knights (Age II) with 2 Cuirassiers (Age III) (both cost about the same and same popspace):
3 Lifidi Knights:
Cost: 270 F, 330 G. Total: 600 res, about 50 percent of which is Gold
Pop: 6
HP vs. Melee Attacks: (430/0.85) * 3 = 505 * 3 = 1515
HP vs. Ranged Attacks: (430/0.7) * 3 = 614 * 3 = 1842
Damage per 1.5s: 3* 22 = 66
Area Damage: No
In: Age II.
2 Cuirassiers:
Cost: 300 F, 300 G. Total: 600 res, 50 percent of which is Gold.
Pop: 6
HP vs. melee Attacks: 510 * 2 = 1020.
HP vs. ranged Attacks: 510/0.8 * 2 = 637.5 * 2 = 1275
Damage per 1.5s: 2*30 = 60
Area Damage: Yes
In: Age III.
Their speed is the same btw and Lifidi Knights train in 40s, Cuirassiers train in 60s, which means you can train 15 Lifidi Knights in same time (2 min) as 10 Cuirs (which cost the same again, same pop).
Tldr: Cost the same, same pop, same train time, same speed, Lifidi Knights have 10 percent more damage and 50 percent more HP. Only drawback: They miss area damage (they gave that to the musks which is better because musks are the damage-dealers, Cav mainly tanks).
But they are unupgraded age II units while Cuirassiers are only available Age III?
This civ has has not been balanced properly yet. Thats obvious if you watch the above stats. They are clearly too strong for what they cost, especially for age II and if you combine them with splash musks, and are auto-upgraded in age III.
(Hausa has some dragoons in age II too in case Musk/Huss is not strong enough without, also their sudan skirmishers are insane, all age II).
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Hausa units are way to good and need a nerf imorichard wrote: ↑31 Jan 2022, 14:04Briefly compare 3 Lifidi Knights (Age II) with 2 Cuirassiers (Age III) (both cost about the same and same popspace):
3 Lifidi Knights:
Cost: 270 F, 330 G. Total: 600 res, about 50 percent of which is Gold
Pop: 6
HP vs. Melee Attacks: (430/0.85) * 3 = 505 * 3 = 1515
HP vs. Ranged Attacks: (430/0.7) * 3 = 614 * 3 = 1842
Damage per 1.5s: 3* 22 = 66
Area Damage: No
In: Age II.
2 Cuirassiers:
Cost: 300 F, 300 G. Total: 600 res, 50 percent of which is Gold.
Pop: 6
HP vs. melee Attacks: 510 * 2 = 1020.
HP vs. ranged Attacks: 510/0.8 * 2 = 637.5 * 2 = 1275
Damage per 1.5s: 2*30 = 60
Area Damage: Yes
In: Age III.
Their speed is the same btw and Lifidi Knights train in 40s, Cuirassiers train in 60s, which means you can train 15 Lifidi Knights in same time (2 min) as 10 Cuirs (which cost the same again, same pop).
Tldr: Cost the same, same pop, same train time, same speed, Lifidi Knights have 10 percent more damage and 50 percent more HP. Only drawback: They miss area damage (they gave that to the musks which is better because they are the damage-dealers, Cav mainly tanks).
But they are unupgraded age II units while Cuirassiers are only available Age III?
This civ has has not been balanced properly yet. Thats obvious if you watch the above stats. They re too strong for what they cost, especially for age II and if you combine them with splash musks, and are auto-upgraded in age III.
(Hausa has some dragoons in age II too in case Musk/Huss is not strong enough without, also their sudan skirmishers are insane, all age II).
Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Gonna save this thread for future arguments backing a further hausa nerf.
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Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Respectable troll keep it up my guy
Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Hausa is not D grade but it's also not OP. I'd say it's in the middle of the pack. The slow start can loses MUs. As for water I think you're supposed to just rush it. African warships seem decent. Depending on the map you might also just ignore it and go straight for lategame where the civ is quite good.
Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Yea from what I’ve seen Hausa seems to be pretty good. Probably not op but that could just because it’s underplayed.
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Glad to see champs Hazza and Garja.
I have to say african civs are very difficult to master, one improvement can be is to auto sell cattle when price reaches certain value. Some times you forget to trade.
Simple strategy vs Hausa is to just camp. They have shit seize units they rely on imported canons improvement. They cannot outboom.
Raiders melt to tower fire and minute men.
Now the most unused and unpractical unit of the entire game Maigadi. It takes ages to acheive full potential.
I have to say african civs are very difficult to master, one improvement can be is to auto sell cattle when price reaches certain value. Some times you forget to trade.
Simple strategy vs Hausa is to just camp. They have shit seize units they rely on imported canons improvement. They cannot outboom.
Raiders melt to tower fire and minute men.
Now the most unused and unpractical unit of the entire game Maigadi. It takes ages to acheive full potential.
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Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
I think hausa is B. Thought it has many drawbacks (like late aging up, have no good anti-artillery, but its cav are too good )
I have won you a few times. Only because i play hausa as well, so i know how to deal with it.
I have won you a few times. Only because i play hausa as well, so i know how to deal with it.
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Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Kynesie is better than 99% of players though, and there aren't always even games available in queue at his level so ofc he plays lesser ELO players disproportionately. so that's a bad example.
Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
isn't Hausa still OP?
Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
New replay please! For the new patch!
Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Well that doesn’t show how the civ is, other than you being really bad ngl if u didn’t even get more than 1600 elo, maybe u should try to get higher elo playing these op old civs like France, grüne sosse, arg_farexD, balloon tbh
( I hope this thread is troll)
( I hope this thread is troll)
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Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
Gg
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Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
@Garjarichard wrote: ↑31 Jan 2022, 14:04Briefly compare 3 Lifidi Knights (Age II) with 2 Cuirassiers (Age III) (both cost about the same and same popspace):
3 Lifidi Knights:
Cost: 270 F, 330 G. Total: 600 res, about 50 percent of which is Gold
Pop: 6
HP vs. Melee Attacks: (430/0.85) * 3 = 505 * 3 = 1515
HP vs. Ranged Attacks: (430/0.7) * 3 = 614 * 3 = 1842
Damage per 1.5s: 3* 22 = 66
Area Damage: No
In: Age II.
2 Cuirassiers:
Cost: 300 F, 300 G. Total: 600 res, 50 percent of which is Gold.
Pop: 6
HP vs. melee Attacks: 510 * 2 = 1020.
HP vs. ranged Attacks: 510/0.8 * 2 = 637.5 * 2 = 1275
Damage per 1.5s: 2*30 = 60
Area Damage: Yes
In: Age III.
Their speed is the same btw and Lifidi Knights train in 40s, Cuirassiers train in 60s, which means you can train 15 Lifidi Knights in same time (2 min) as 10 Cuirs (which cost the same again, same pop).
Tldr: Cost the same, same pop, same train time, same speed, Lifidi Knights have 10 percent more damage and 50 percent more HP. Only drawback: They miss area damage (they gave that to the musks which is better because musks are the damage-dealers, Cav mainly tanks).
But they are unupgraded age II units while Cuirassiers are only available Age III?
This civ has has not been balanced properly yet. Thats obvious if you watch the above stats. They are clearly too strong for what they cost, especially for age II and if you combine them with splash musks, and are auto-upgraded in age III.
(Hausa has some dragoons in age II too in case Musk/Huss is not strong enough without, also their sudan skirmishers are insane, all age II).
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Re: Hausa in 2022 1600+ recorded games
To be fair cuirs are notoriously overpriced both for their ranged hp (20% resistance is bad) and fighting vs other cav in low numbers (as the number goes up the area damage stacks up).
If you do the same math vs other age2 cav, numbers also run close (which is unexpected for age2 vs age3 units).
For example, 3 colonial naginatas vs 2 veteran cuirs:
- ranged HP is 1285 vs 1275
- damage is 84 vs 60
Naginatas are apparently better than cuirs for cost, but are they? (For the record I do think they are simply because euro units are mediocre in general).
Other than that yes, maybe Lifidi overperforms a bit for its cost (which doesn't have the exactly same resource ratio as cuirs and can't be ignored). You also need to send a card which costs 500 influence (for which you basically need a specific build and it doesn't exactly give a decisive advantage).
I guess the melee resistance could the only problem because it adds an extra strenght that is maybe not warranted by the cost. Aside from that they are fine. They are meant to be a premium tanking unit that costs slightly more than the average cav unit (hussar) while having shit dps in return. They do exactly that.
If you do 1 lifidi vs 1 huss the lifidi wins with 47hp left which is about the worth of the cost difference. And huss aren't great dog fighers either. Units like axe rider, uhlan, cossack should destroy lifidi per cost in a direct fight (as expected), that's mostly what I meant.
If you do the same math vs other age2 cav, numbers also run close (which is unexpected for age2 vs age3 units).
For example, 3 colonial naginatas vs 2 veteran cuirs:
- ranged HP is 1285 vs 1275
- damage is 84 vs 60
Naginatas are apparently better than cuirs for cost, but are they? (For the record I do think they are simply because euro units are mediocre in general).
Other than that yes, maybe Lifidi overperforms a bit for its cost (which doesn't have the exactly same resource ratio as cuirs and can't be ignored). You also need to send a card which costs 500 influence (for which you basically need a specific build and it doesn't exactly give a decisive advantage).
I guess the melee resistance could the only problem because it adds an extra strenght that is maybe not warranted by the cost. Aside from that they are fine. They are meant to be a premium tanking unit that costs slightly more than the average cav unit (hussar) while having shit dps in return. They do exactly that.
If you do 1 lifidi vs 1 huss the lifidi wins with 47hp left which is about the worth of the cost difference. And huss aren't great dog fighers either. Units like axe rider, uhlan, cossack should destroy lifidi per cost in a direct fight (as expected), that's mostly what I meant.
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