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09 Oct 2018, 04:16

dunno, i've seen him play on stream a bit yesterday, doesn't seem like a big difference. the only difference is in build orders and experience. and ofc experience matters a lot in this game, but for the sake of this argument then ofc we'd have to assume similar knowledge of the meta.
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10 Oct 2018, 23:24

Aztec FI gets fucking trashed btw, not even close lol.
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France [Armag] diarouga
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11 Oct 2018, 05:08

Lukas_L99 wrote:Aztec FI gets fucking trashed btw, not even close lol.

People used to say so in every MU.
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11 Oct 2018, 11:52

[Armag] diarouga wrote:
Lukas_L99 wrote:Aztec FI gets fucking trashed btw, not even close lol.

People used to say so in every MU.


Well, I think I kinda know how to do an Aztec FI and have won vs most civs with it, but it doesn't work vs India. 50 mace and 15 skull knights lose to 40-50 Sepoys, 2 mahouts and 20 urumis with cease fire.
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France Kaiserklein
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11 Oct 2018, 12:00

Skull knights just totally useless vs urumi/sepoy. I guess you need to do something else instead, like erk, but then obviously it's slower cause they're not auto upgraded to industrial like knights are. And you actually need natural resources too.
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11 Oct 2018, 12:01

you can cover with skulls, helps vs urumi and sepoy both to tank like shit
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11 Oct 2018, 12:06

Even with coyotes instead of skulls is the same. It's just that in the relevant time frame India is able to get more stuff, and with more eco even.
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11 Oct 2018, 12:13

Yeah erk is too slow, youre gonna have india‘s army in base before you can get a decent army.
Skulls in cover dont kill the mahouts fast enough, you need to kill those or you’re losing all your mace. But once the mahouts are dead you got like 5 skulls left and those wont make a difference. It feels hopeless tbh.
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11 Oct 2018, 14:04

Lukas_L99 wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:
Lukas_L99 wrote:Aztec FI gets fucking trashed btw, not even close lol.

People used to say so in every MU.

50 mace and 15 skull knights lose to 40-50 Sepoys, 2 mahouts and 20 urumis with cease fire.

That's for sure, if you have 50 maces and 15 skulls, he'll have 2 mahouts, 20 urumis and at best 10 sepoys, which is totally manageable.
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11 Oct 2018, 14:15

more like 30 sepoy, also 2 monks and inspiration.
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11 Oct 2018, 14:51

I dont see azzy beating mass urumi at all, coy loses and mace cant kite forever
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11 Oct 2018, 15:47

when armies are approx 100+ pop india one is just stronger. Azzies can beat that but you need like 2 waves which you don't get time to get.
And infinite urumi card doesn't help because in FI vs FI it's gonna be relevant forever. It would be different it if was long colonial into IV game where shipping urumi cards is going to be underwhelming comparing to what civs can pop out at that point with like maxed out ecoes.

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