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27 Jan 2019, 21:03

*YOU WON'T BELIEVE HOW THIS SALTY AMERICAN WATER BOI WON $10,000 PLAYING AGE OF EMPIRES!*
*CLICK BELOW FOR HIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK*

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Jokes aside, I don't know if anyone has posted these before but here are (I think) all of the recs from WCG 2007/08 including the qualifying stages, group stages and finals - all contained in some convenient user friendly ZIP files.

If you get too nostalgic dm me and we can play Japan mirror on RE patch 1.00

Thx xoxo

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WCG07_Asian_Qualif_GrandFinal.zip
WCG 2007
(55.07 MiB) Downloaded 40 times
AOE3WCG08RecPack.zip
WCG 2008 including _H20 vs Iamgrunt
(43.08 MiB) Downloaded 42 times
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27 Jan 2019, 22:44

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28 Jan 2019, 02:13

holy shit, the gold mine disparity on the last game of the 08 final was insanely unbalanced against h20. Like 7 mines on grunts side, 3 on h2os. I wonder if that ultimately tipped it in h2o's favor because he transitioned faster to paddies and was more set up for the long game.

my question to everyone is, would the current meta easily defeat the strats played in these 10-11 year old games? Or would that meta still be the top meta if we were playing on that patch? i.e., do we know more about the game now than we did then, all things being equal?

and then I was just wondering if @_H2O feels like this was when he was at the all-time top of his game, or if he thinks he's improved since then. Could 2019 _H2O beat 2008 _H2O? Mad respect btw.
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28 Jan 2019, 02:20

Squamiger wrote:holy shit, the gold mine disparity on the last game of the 08 final was insanely unbalanced against h20. Like 7 mines on grunts side, 3 on h2os. I wonder if that ultimately tipped it in h2o's favor because he transitioned faster to paddies and was more set up for the long game.

my question to everyone is, would the current meta easily defeat the strats played in these 10-11 year old games? Or would that meta still be the top meta if we were playing on that patch? i.e., do we know more about the game now than we did then, all things being equal?

and then I was just wondering if @_H2O feels like this was when he was at the all-time top of his game, or if he thinks he's improved since then. Could 2019 _H2O beat 2008 _H2O? Mad respect btw.

Having less mines definitely sucks. In jap mirror it's probably not that much of an issue because you can put your shrines on gold, which is enough for the ashi production (H2O prefered to put them on food though because you can delay the 2 orchards which makes sense).

The patch was different back then, shrines were better, and ashi stronger so the mankle build was probably the best build back then, but on the current patch it can lose to semi FI builds, especially on Siberia. Blackstar and nagayumi showed that semi FI is better than the bank build on the current RE.

_H2O said multiple times that he was better mechanically back then, but had less knowledge about the game of course, so 2008 _H2O would lose to 2019 _H2O if they were to play a serie without preparation. Given some time, 2008 _H2O would probably copy the meta builds and win though.
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28 Jan 2019, 02:53

[Armag] diarouga wrote:
Squamiger wrote:holy shit, the gold mine disparity on the last game of the 08 final was insanely unbalanced against h20. Like 7 mines on grunts side, 3 on h2os. I wonder if that ultimately tipped it in h2o's favor because he transitioned faster to paddies and was more set up for the long game.

my question to everyone is, would the current meta easily defeat the strats played in these 10-11 year old games? Or would that meta still be the top meta if we were playing on that patch? i.e., do we know more about the game now than we did then, all things being equal?

and then I was just wondering if @_H2O feels like this was when he was at the all-time top of his game, or if he thinks he's improved since then. Could 2019 _H2O beat 2008 _H2O? Mad respect btw.

Having less mines definitely sucks. In jap mirror it's probably not that much of an issue because you can put your shrines on gold, which is enough for the ashi production (H2O prefered to put them on food though because you can delay the 2 orchards which makes sense).

The patch was different back then, shrines were better, and ashi stronger so the mankle build was probably the best build back then, but on the current patch it can lose to semi FI builds, especially on Siberia. Blackstar and nagayumi showed that semi FI is better than the bank build on the current RE.

_H2O said multiple times that he was better mechanically back then, but had less knowledge about the game of course, so 2008 _H2O would lose to 2019 _H2O if they were to play a serie without preparation. Given some time, 2008 _H2O would probably copy the meta builds and win though.

This depends because mechanics are significantly more important in 0 ping LAN games than in 100-200+ ping online games.
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28 Jan 2019, 07:22

Probably.
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28 Jan 2019, 13:45

I remember asian qualifier recs going oos with both basic and most up to date TWC patches. Probably it was an in between patch where they nerfed Iro.
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28 Jan 2019, 13:49

I wonder if they even realized that industrial shogunate was so that broken.
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28 Jan 2019, 18:05

Garja wrote:I wonder if they even realized that industrial shogunate was so that broken.

They did but because of how strong the ashis were it didn't really matter because ashis would counter arrows.
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15 Apr 2019, 08:23

Garja wrote:I remember asian qualifier recs going oos with both basic and most up to date TWC patches. Probably it was an in between patch where they nerfed Iro.

Yes, we have to install the patch 1.04 for TWC in order to watch the recs of WCG 2007 without oos.

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