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10 Jul 2019, 20:12

Does anyone know or have a way to know how accuracy is calculated for archer units? I know that units like eagle runners and CKN miss sometimes but do we know how often?
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10 Jul 2019, 21:28

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11 Jul 2019, 16:08

Thank you for your helpful reply
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11 Jul 2019, 16:17

BRING ME EAGLEMUT!!

IIRC CKN miss a lot more, which tells us one thing, at least.
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11 Jul 2019, 17:14

zoom wrote:BRING ME EAGLEMUT!!

IIRC CKN miss a lot more, which tells us one thing, at least.

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11 Jul 2019, 17:16

I mean, it tells us that every arrow has an individual chance of missing, you racist.
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11 Jul 2019, 18:14

My basic test was 20 eagle runners (300 damage combined) vs skull knights (300hp exactly) in the editor and the erks one shot kill the skulls about 2/3 of the time so I'm guessing around a 3-5% chance to miss but i would love to have accurate numbers
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11 Jul 2019, 22:08

zoom wrote:BRING ME EAGLEMUT!!

IIRC CKN miss a lot more, which tells us one thing, at least.

Yes because they fire 3 arrows, so all those have the same chance to miss. Iirc its 10% chance to miss for every arrow. I remember I saw this when people were discussing ttm since 8bow vs 8 bow is bullshit when 1xbow misses the 1st shot and you're 1 down from the start
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11 Jul 2019, 22:31

ah, cool – thanks!
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11 Jul 2019, 23:09

macacoalbino wrote:
zoom wrote:BRING ME EAGLEMUT!!

IIRC CKN miss a lot more, which tells us one thing, at least.

Yes because they fire 3 arrows, so all those have the same chance to miss. Iirc its 10% chance to miss for every arrow. I remember I saw this when people were discussing ttm since 8bow vs 8 bow is bullshit when 1xbow misses the 1st shot and you're 1 down from the start


Interesting that you say a 10% chance of missing as from dansil92's eagle runner test it suggests that the chance of missing is ~2% (1-.666^.05). Do we know if projectiles missing is "supposed" to happen or is it an error due to how the game engine runs?
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11 Jul 2019, 23:25

I said 10% out of memory I must be wrong then. I think it is designed to miss, it's a downside from the archaic units iirc

Maybe a good way to test is getting a single xbow to shoot one of those 1million hp units (like that weird hippopotamus we used for the obs UI in the old days) for a while and check how many arrows missed?
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12 Jul 2019, 00:56

Yeah its supposed to be a downside, though it always seems silly to me as a longbow or atlatl is far more accurate than primitive muskets. Its always a slight downside on using archers in exchange for less overkill, which is the upside of archers. I dont think macehualtin ever miss but i think all the other units with the archer tag should... never tested cav archers or iron troops so I can't be 100% sure

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