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France chronique
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20 Oct 2019, 18:31

What is the best way for spain vs india age 3? I lost so many game vs them age 3 becasue there unit look so strong (urumi mahout + cipoy look to be the perfect compo).
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20 Oct 2019, 19:24

Skirm lancer rodelero. 2 falcs. 5 doggs. Get those dogs distracting the urumi and lancer them. Rodeleros can chase mahouts
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France chronique
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20 Oct 2019, 19:35

"Get those dogs distracting the urumi" i dont play vs AI ^^
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20 Oct 2019, 19:42

Sadly i feel ff aggro is the best option in like every mu.
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20 Oct 2019, 19:50

the MU is quite shit but maybe , spanish gold 2 falc 5 lancer 9 rod
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20 Oct 2019, 19:59

Currently i loose because bad compo (i know how counter the rush and the aggro ff work vs pasive india, to me) but i struggle to finish him and if he stabilise i lost.

Generaly i make skirm rodo but rodo look pretty usless vs the india army.
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20 Oct 2019, 20:01

Think it's one of the mus where spain wants to all in
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20 Oct 2019, 20:07

My game looks like :
- india rush
- i counter ez
- my unit walk and kill fort, india age up during this time
- i win before he can do anything or i die 10 min later because i am barly too slow, sometime i have an huge lead but i can't finish and i loose a couple of minute later ^^
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20 Oct 2019, 20:22

Well that's exactly how most games go when they involve an aggro civ vs an eco civ. Either the timing works or it doesn't, you can't miss the window. It's the same for many civs vs brits or japs for example, or sometimes dutch.
You just have to control your units really well when you push and apply pressure properly, it's quite hard.
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20 Oct 2019, 23:07

As people said, you hold the rush, then all in and try to finish him.
He can remass very fast so you have to go for his eco aftet Agra.
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20 Oct 2019, 23:42

All in FF is pretty ass vs India who knows the MU but it might the easiest way to exploit the population tendency at the moment (in other words it's bad in theory but it works in practice).
With that said, the best way theoretically speaking is probably start as if you want to go eco FF and ideally aim for a 4unit combo (skirm,lancer, rod goons). Can also add falcs from foundry if the game goes on and you're allowed to. Clearly can't play whole game spamming falcs (I guess it's more viable with Spanish gold card tho). Your units are strictly inferior to what India can get but you have more unit types and some of them are hard counters. For example rods are good if he goes for zambs. If he goes sepoy (and he probably should) then falcs or CIR skirms are good. Have to balance your combo accordingly and try to win a battle to either win the game right there or translate it in some other advantage.
Eco can also be a problem but not as much as people think, you have to rely on shipments and don't sack market ups unless you need it (vs rush for example). Overall you have to make a play with Spain and at least get some damage done somehow before switching to a late game plan (where you have unction which turn your units from meh to wow).
Btw vs India bots who fb agra you can win even in colonial with a good timing.

I think these games are nice to expand on what Spain can actually do.
https://www.rts-sanctuary.com/The-Asian ... try1273255
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https://www.rts-sanctuary.com/The-Asian ... try1273250
https://www.rts-sanctuary.com/The-Asian ... try1273249
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21 Oct 2019, 14:36

I can't access to the recs :/ .
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21 Oct 2019, 14:59

Ye I know, I think I posted a pack somehwere on the site, check that.
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