EP 9.0.x Beta [RELEASED-LIVE]

[Makrokosmos12]

ESOC Patch bug fixes
- Removed attack delay on all cannon-based artillery units, fixing an issue that caused them to sometimes fire "blank" shots.

It was fun when Kaiserkleins falcs where shooting blanks. Gonna miss those days.

It doesn’t change that. His falcs will still shoot banks if he doesn’t pay attention.

indeed, banks would be pretty good.

[Mitoe]

Ah. :)

[Riotcoke]

I'm still a bit iffy on the start for Germany, honestly feel that some mu are going to basically be impossible for them when Vs the same skill level

[flontier]

I hope the hidden tourney is going to be on the beta / ep9 so we can have a first little feeling about the balance.

[Mitoe]

I'm still a bit iffy on the start for Germany, honestly feel that some mu are going to basically be impossible for them when Vs the same skill level

Just build a TP in age 1 then.

[Aykin Haraka]

aoe3's world is about one tp

[forgrin]

Germany also got the (well-deserved) XP nerf reverted, so I think with a transition TP the fixed crate situation will be just fine. It's literally a buff for them after a certain point.

[dansil92]

I think coin start for germany but lower shipment penalty is great design. It vastly improves their no-tp and 'i lost my tp early' performance, encourages a market start, and allows for the potential uhlan hp revert. This is a good step forward

[dutchdude117]

I was thinking, if people find germany's start a bit too weak, we could always throw in 1 more coin crate, making market opener much stronger as well as a ff a little bit faster

[Ghost_Imperator]

I was thinking, if people find germany's start a bit too weak, we could always throw in 1 more coin crate, making market opener much stronger as well as a ff a little bit faster

Market start doesn’t compare to a TP start, whether with with one extra coin crate or not. The fact that Germany doesn’t get its best start anymore while others do is just a shame.

[[Armag] diarouga]

I was thinking, if people find germany's start a bit too weak, we could always throw in 1 more coin crate, making market opener much stronger as well as a ff a little bit faster

Market start doesn’t compare to a TP start, whether with with one extra coin crate or not. The fact that Germany doesn’t get its best start anymore while others do is just a shame.

Some nerfs got reverted though. And the current EP testings (though only a few games were played), didn't show that the Ger start was weak.

[chronique]

But the current EP testing with spain show me than tp first seem to be the best option now (and always i think), because if i ff fast (15 into 17-18 with tp in transi), i can't send my first shipement right after reaching age 3 (and sometime i can wait like 15 sec)

[knusch]

"Coyote Combat" shipment now also increases Coyote Runner ranged resistance by 0.12

the card was with "+20% hp and 10% speed" already good and same goes for coyote. what is the reason behind this? coyote heavy armies late age 2 with war dance already win vs most stuff

[CaRp]

- "Coffee Trade" upgrade no longer reduces military speed; research time increased to 30 seconds (from 15)
may this technology should lower the resistance points of banks. -10% hp?

[EAGLEMUT]

This is an update to an ongoing Beta version of the ESOC Patch. You can find combined changelog of current Beta here.



EP 9.0.0.0 Beta3 [2020-08-18]
changelog since EP 9.0.0.0 Beta2

ESOC Patch bug fixes
- "6 Coyote Runners" shipment decreased to 5. [missing balance change]
- Loyal Nootka Warchief tech now correctly spawns a single warchief, instead of 6. [addresses an issue specific to beta]
- Mosque XP trickle rate is no longer affected (increased) by Church XP trickle rate. [addresses an issue specific to beta]
- Navajo Rifleman is no longer affected by counter-infantry rifling. [addresses an issue specific to beta]
- Fixed a bug where the Age requirement for Sioux walls wasn't being displayed correctly. [addresses an issue specific to beta]
- Teepee-related texts reverted to RE state, without mentions of economic boost. [addresses an issue specific to beta]
- Ensured perfect attack accuracy of War Hut (anti-ship), Nobles' Hut (anti-ship), Eagle Runner Knight, Native Villager, Tomahawk, Alarm Warrior. [addresses an issue introduced on EP]
- TWC civilizations can no longer lose access to Canoes upon losing a minor native alliance. [addresses an issue introduced on EP]
- Iroquois Artillery Depot bounties recalculated to reflect discounted wood cost on EP (40xp/80xp). [addresses an issue introduced on EP]
- Fixed a bug causing rescued units to permanently gain bonus multipliers vs Heroes & Villagers, when the game was started in other than Discovery Age. [addresses an issue introduced on EP]
- Yojimbo unit-type AbstractGunpowderCavalry replaced with AbstractArcher.
- Canoes are now affected by naval military upgrades.
- "Blood Brothers" shipment now grants upgrades for the Aztec/Lakota/Iroquois minor natives; fixed upgrade activation order for the German version of the card.

ESOC Patch map changes
- Added new maps UIx ESOC Vietnam (by @vividlyplain) and UIx ESOC Manitoba (by @dansil92).
- UIx ESOC Mississippi:

• Improved map visuals
• Fixed a bug preventing sheep from spawning

- UIx ESOC Wabakimi:

• Removed island crates
• Added 6 sheep in 1v1 (4+Player Number)

- UIx ESOC Nepal:

• Removed acropolis around TC
• Reduced to 2 TP in 1v1
• Teams moved from edge slightly

- UIx ESOC Bering Strait:

• Terrain less patchy for @I_HaRRiiSoN_I
• Third hunts spawn behind base in team
• No more shared gold mines in team (replaced by second mine in base)

- UIx ESOC Fraser River:

• Teams moved away from edge slightly
• Second mine spawns closer to TC to avoid having cliff spawn in between it and TC

- UIx ESOC Vietnam (new map) features:

• Tin mines
• 2 Zen and 2 Shaolin temples
• Deccan starting crates
• Tin mines
• Plenty of lower tier treasures
• Extra berries behind TCs
• Should always have wood along shoreline
• 6 whales in 1v1 (4+Player Number)

ESOC Patch balance changes
Comments by @Mitoe, in italic.

GENERAL
- Churches now provide a small 0.60 xp trickle (up from 0.4)
- Forts now have a 110xp build bounty (from 0xp)

NATIVES
- French & Iroquois "Native Warrior Combat" shipment reduced to 20% (down from 25%)
- Native Warrior "Champion" upgrades reduced to 35% (from 40%)
- "Native Treaties" shipment now delivers 3 Mapuche Clubmen instead of 5 when allied with Mapuche
- "Advanced Scouts" shipment now enables snare for Native Scout
- "Cheyenne Fury" multiplier bonus tweaked to +0.5 vs Cavalry and +0.25 vs Light Infantry

- "8 Cherokee Allies" card increased to 9
(Iroquois, British)

- "8 Cree Allies" card increased to 9
(Iroquois, Sioux)

- "6 Huron Allies" card increased to 7; cost decreased to 450c (from 500c)
(Iroquois, France)


NAVAJO

Navajo don't really fit into the counter system and may be slightly too strong. Going to tune them down slightly and see how things go.

- Hitpoints decreased to 190 (from 200)


CHINA
- "Hire 26 Rattan Shields" card reduced to 24 Rattans
Shipment was already quite strong, and Rattans have +1 attack now.

DUTCH
- Starting crates fixed to 100f 400c 200w (from 500c 200w)
- "Coffee Trade" research time REVERTED to 15 seconds (from 30); now reduces military speed by 10% once again

GERMANY
- Shipment XP cost penalty reduced to 7% (from 8%)
Some players have expressed concerns that Germany may be at a significant disadvantage without the crates to consistently make a TP every game like many other civs. We're increasing the significance of the XP cost buff slightly to compensate.

INDIA
- 6 Sepoy shipment REVERTED to 5 Sepoy
- 700 Wood shipment REVERTED to 600 Wood
India may be in a decent spot right now, with fixed crates. Going to try a couple of reverts and see how it affects them.
- "Hire 7 Chakrams" shipment cost decreased to 450c (from 500c)

JAPAN
- Shrine cost reverted to 125w (from 120w)
Japan is a civilization we want to be very careful with, especially since the nerf to Trading Posts is arguably a significant buff. Shrine cost was originally changed to help stabilize the civ a bit on non-wood starts. Now that crates are fixed, it may no longer be necessary.

OTTOMAN
- Mosque cost increased to 150w (from 100w)
With fixed crates, getting a Mosque + TP is a little bit too obvious. This should add a bit of decision making in the early game. Either gather 50w for the extra XP income, or save to age more quickly.
- Mosque XP trickle increased to 0.75xp (from 0.7)
Should hopefully not be a problem since the Mosque is harder to get now, and will also help Otto on non-TP maps where other civs also have a slight buff now.

PORTUGUESE
- Cassador ROF REVERTED to 3.0 (from 4.5)
- Cassador Attack REVERTED to 17 (from 25)
- 5% hunt/berry gather bonus removed; now starts the game with Hunting Dogs automatically researched

RUSSIA
- Veteran upgrades REVERTED to 200w 200c (from 200w 100c)
- Musketeer batch cost decreased to 280f, 95c (from 285f, 95c)
Reverting the somewhat "unusual" buff in exchange for reducing the cost of the Russian musketeer to be more similar to RE Patch cost (281.25f, 93.75c).

SIOUX
- "6 Cheyenne Allies" increased to 7
- "6 Comanche Allies" increased to 8

SPANISH
- "9 Mayan Allies" increased to 11

Credits

- @vividlyplain for new map Vietnam and updates (with changelist) to Wabakimi, Nepal, Bering Strait, Fraser River
- @dansil92 for new map Manitoba and updates to Mississippi

[dansil92]

Ensured perfect attack accuracy of... Eagle Runner Knight

also:
ESOC Manitoba

[Kaiserklein]

Can we please have a real "standard maps" set? With standard maps in it

[Riotcoke]

Same for team, can someone just ask hazza what a good team set is rather than having shit like wakambi and tupoaro

[Riotcoke]

Yojimbo unit-type AbstractGunpowderCavalry replaced with AbstractArcher.

[look]

I Prefer the Mosque 100w.

if u need to do this when have 24 vills
it gets very complicated
and can make you lose a game just cause need to do this at important time.

[Kaiserklein]

Yeah I mean, I don't think anyone wants to chop 50w for the mosque in age 1. It's like 80 less food towards your age up, which is kinda a lot as otto. Also 0.75 xp for 150w is crap or is it just me?
I'd rather have people build the mosque every game than have people float 100w every game in age 1 because there's no way to spend it.

[Hazza54321]

Agreed, this nerf to otto seems abit unreasonable

[chris1089]

Agreed, this nerf to otto seems abit unreasonable

Otto probably needs a nerf of some sort but ye.

[[Armag] diarouga]

Can we please have a real "standard maps" set? With standard maps in it

Cometk and I made one. Ask Mitoe...

[Hazza54321]

Cometbae likes the wacky maps to really tug at our balls though. In tournaments at least