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France Kaiserklein
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25 Mar 2021, 18:54

It's definitely worse on DE. For example on legacy I've used P for both build and find a TP for years, and it worked perfectly well. On DE, I can't use P to build a TP if I already have one on the map, as it will just select it.
Similarly, I used X both to attack move, find a saloon and build a saloon, never had any problem. On DE I lost the first game where I built a saloon because whenever I'd try to attack move my units it would just select my saloon (and my units kept walking and died).
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Latvia harcha
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25 Mar 2021, 19:20

again, i maintain my conviction: the game has always been inconsistent with controls/hotkeys, whether it is DE or legacy. someone says it works one way and then others say it works in the opposite way for them. in honesty i believe both.
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France flontier
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25 Mar 2021, 19:28

Yea this was definitely the case on RE. i had to re-bind every not-used hotkeys to a key i never use to be sure i dont be redirected on my mills when i want to attack move and other shit like that. Maybe the priority is given by the order in which you map your hotkeys or the complexity of the hotkeys (like ctrl+i > i) idk.
France Kaiserklein
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25 Mar 2021, 19:42

Well either way it should be fixed
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:Playing Aztec is a 10% handicap
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
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Italy Garja
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25 Mar 2021, 20:40

Kaiserklein wrote:It's definitely worse on DE. For example on legacy I've used P for both build and find a TP for years, and it worked perfectly well. On DE, I can't use P to build a TP if I already have one on the map, as it will just select it.
Similarly, I used X both to attack move, find a saloon and build a saloon, never had any problem. On DE I lost the first game where I built a saloon because whenever I'd try to attack move my units it would just select my saloon (and my units kept walking and died).

I'm quite sure that the building/finding conflict worked the same on legacy, atleast for me. For example, if had "P" for both building and finding TPs on legacy it would always select it even with explorer selected. That's exactly why I always had ctrl+"key" to find buildings that I want to build more than once (e.g. raxes) and just "key" for buildings I want built only once (e.g. market). Basically I always used the conflict on purpose to prevent double market or double arsenal happening (as well as being easier to hit in game), while I had to play around the conflict with ctrl+"key" for military buildings, mills, etc.
So I really don't know. I also owned the game from all kind of sources (CD, steam, pirate version) so I don't think it's about different version of legacy game.

harcha wrote:again, i maintain my conviction: the game has always been inconsistent with controls/hotkeys, whether it is DE or legacy. someone says it works one way and then others say it works in the opposite way for them. in honesty i believe both.

It would make sense, but it has to be random coding or something. There's one thing I know when it comes to assigning hotkeys. Manually editing the game files from text editor has priority over the in game hotkey system if such files are protected by "read only" attribute, which is the case by default. This might be the root of the problem or atleast related to all the hotkey conflicts/ impossible to unbind issues.
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Sweden Zutazuta
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26 Mar 2021, 02:58

If ESOC Maps Team Garja and Advanced Player Jerimuno can't convince you, I don't know what can!
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Malawi princeofcarthage
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26 Mar 2021, 09:06

Pls take your blither, blather to other threads. Keep this meme only!
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Germany aligator92
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26 Mar 2021, 10:27

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Switzerland sebnan12
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27 Mar 2021, 12:04

Kaiserklein wrote:Well either way it should be fixed

Btw kaiser whats ur solution rn? I used p for both now im doing shift p and p which is no good solution for me. Same example i used t to build tc and find tc. Kinda crappy de feature
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France Kaiserklein
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27 Mar 2021, 13:25

I just don't use a hotkey anymore for building TPs besides the first one. It's annoying.
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Malawi princeofcarthage
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27 Mar 2021, 13:48

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27 Mar 2021, 22:59

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Argentina EliteRifleman
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28 Mar 2021, 22:19

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Sweden Zutazuta
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28 Mar 2021, 23:48

EliteRifleman wrote:Image


Would have been more on point if you used a Tekkousen; otherwise great meme.
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31 Mar 2021, 20:43

Oh, okay. :(

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Austria knusch
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31 Mar 2021, 23:14

careful!
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Argentina EliteRifleman
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01 Apr 2021, 13:11

knusch wrote:careful!

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05 Apr 2021, 23:59

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Germany blackout
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06 Apr 2021, 00:04

I thought that in a poll they made most people said they wanted usa so the meme is incorrect
Argentina EliteRifleman
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06 Apr 2021, 00:36

blackout wrote:I thought that in a poll they made most people said they wanted usa so the meme is incorrect


Ah sorry, I did this meme for two reasons, first because if memory serves me, no one asked for that civi, and in the official aoe forum the vast majority of players (myself included), showed their disapproval.
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Germany blackout
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06 Apr 2021, 08:11

Pretty sure "vast majority" is a subjective feeling of u and in fact not true as well @EliteRifleman
Argentina EliteRifleman
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06 Apr 2021, 12:59

blackout wrote:Pretty sure "vast majority" is a subjective feeling of u and in fact not true as well @EliteRifleman



Nonono, I'm being serious, check out these two topics bro.

https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/itali ... dlc/122247
https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/in-de ... ica/122312

Virtually everyone is rejecting the idea of ​​a civi USA.
I really didn't check if they thought the same here at ESOC, because I thought they would think the same.
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Brazil look
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07 Apr 2021, 21:21

Look again :hmm: :biggrin:
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Brazil look
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07 Apr 2021, 21:37

+bugs
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Brazil lemmings121
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07 Apr 2021, 23:47

look wrote:Look again :hmm: :biggrin:


the long awaited delivery of bugs!
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