Garja (Russia) vs Diarouga (French)

Garja · Post by **Garja** » 16 Sep 2015, 17:28

2 games we played on gameranger, third one (russia all in) was not recced

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[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 16 Sep 2015, 17:53

[spoiler]{Spoiler}
Wp but it doesn't show that russia>'France

1st game I tried a new build which didn't work at all, I got iddled 1min. Even after that I managed to come back but I lost a fight because of the positioning.

And game 2 actually shows that France>'Russia even if I lost. Before the 1st fight we both had 60 military pop (you had ca/musk/strel so my army was more expansive) and after the fight I had 20 and you 40. I missclicked with my falcs so I lost 1 falc and my inf was out of position. And again, even after that I almost won.[/spoiler]

Post by **edeholland** » 16 Sep 2015, 17:54

Can you put that in spoilers Diaroura?

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 16 Sep 2015, 17:56

edeholland wrote:Can you put that in spoilers Diaroura?

Do it next time ')

Rikikipu · Post by **Rikikipu** » 16 Sep 2015, 17:58

I i remember well, in the last asc tournament, russia vs france was one of the most unfair mu, much more wins for russia.

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 16 Sep 2015, 18:04

rikikipu wrote:I i remember well, in the last asc tournament, russia vs france was one of the most unfair mu, much more wins for russia.

We can''t make statistics on 5 games lol. +people who won as russia vs fre won the serie so they were likely better.

Asato4 · Post by **Asato4** » 16 Sep 2015, 18:05

It didn't count, I lost this mu against PrinceofKabul :p

Garja · Post by **Garja** » 16 Sep 2015, 18:20

2nd game is pretty rubbish. I couldn't control my units very well for some reason, otherwise all those trades under the blockhouses just favor russia.

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 16 Sep 2015, 18:46

garja wrote:2nd game is pretty rubbish. I couldn''t control my units very well for some reason, otherwise all those trades under the blockhouses just favor russia.

Yeah but you won 40 military pop in the 1st fight, next is just me trying to come back.

blasdg · Post by **blasdg** » 16 Sep 2015, 18:59

First game was just an awful opening of France, nothing ot see here.

But second game was really hard to watch. Garja had strelet + CA en MASSE - for what? Please, 15 CA are by far enough to kill cuirs, next time just go vet cos and send boyars (!!). The skirms caused u such a lot of trouble, when u have like 15-20 vet cos with boyars you can just run into the french army, abuse 4.5 speed for strelets to catch up and destroy those skirms AND the goons. And btw, cosaks with cards are not awful vs cuirs without cards. You would have owned the french army so hard had u had a better unit composition.

And the way diarouga lost his skirms was just omfg.

PS: Not meant to be flaming, just my 2 cents, I probably would have played worse!

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 16 Sep 2015, 19:10

blasdg wrote:First game was just an awful opening of France, nothing ot see here.

But second game was really hard to watch. Garja had strelet + CA en MASSE - for what? Please, 15 CA are by far enough to kill cuirs, next time just go vet cos and send boyars (!!). The skirms caused u such a lot of trouble, when u have like 15-20 vet cos with boyars you can just run into the french army, abuse 4.5 speed for strelets to catch up and destroy those skirms AND the goons. And btw, cosaks with cards are not awful vs cuirs without cards. You would have owned the french army so hard had u had a better unit composition.

And the way diarouga lost his skirms was just omfg.

PS: Not meant to be flaming, just my 2 cents, I probably would have played worse!

You didn''t notice that I lost the game after loosing the fight with falcs. After that, the game was over but he indeed made to many ca.

KINGofOsmane · Post by **KINGofOsmane** » 16 Sep 2015, 19:11

garja wrote:2 games we played on gameranger, third one (russia all in) was not recced

insane

blasdg · Post by **blasdg** » 16 Sep 2015, 19:21

I noticed that your cannons went apeshit at that fight, but then again, why would you play a strat that is a one-trick-pony by means of ONE fight at min 11 that decides a 30 min game?!

momuuu · Post by **momuuu** » 16 Sep 2015, 19:42

Why would you try out a new build if you're trying to test a match up :p

Garja · Post by **Garja** » 16 Sep 2015, 21:02

Ye I know I could have made coss at one point since I even had 1:1 food:gold just need to up them and time them with the 6 coss card or the switch is pointless. That would probably require a 2nd stable for safety. Russia is happy just trafing units of the same type.

Anyway those were just 2 random games don't expect much.

Jaeger · Post by **Jaeger** » 17 Sep 2015, 04:01

So schedule more serious games

?

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 17 Sep 2015, 05:15

To test a MU we would need like 30 games. And considering that I haven't played France for 1 month, I do many mistakes.

_DB_ · Post by **_DB_** » 17 Sep 2015, 05:22

gg wp

Hazza54321 · Post by **Hazza54321** » 17 Sep 2015, 15:31

yeah ofc french>russia diarouga just messed up his builds and cannon micro

Garja · Post by **Garja** » 17 Sep 2015, 15:40

I'm open to test this more btw

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 17 Sep 2015, 16:22

hazza54321 wrote:yeah ofc french>'russia diarouga just messed up his builds and cannon micro

You understood

Good ol Ivan · Post by **Good ol Ivan** » 18 Sep 2015, 15:01

diarouga wrote:
rikikipu wrote:I i remember well, in the last asc tournament, russia vs france was one of the most unfair mu, much more wins for russia.
We cant make statistics on 5 games lol. +people who won as russia vs fre won the serie so they were likely better.

Well idk, how about this?
http://aoe3.jpcommunity.com/rating2/stats?t=age3ySP1v1

britishmusketeer · Post by **britishmusketeer** » 18 Sep 2015, 15:07

ivan wrote:
diarouga wrote:We cant make statistics on 5 games lol. +people who won as russia vs fre won the serie so they were likely better.
Well idk, how about this?
http://aoe3.jpcommunity.com/rating2/stats?t=age3ySP1v1

This has been discussed many times. These statistics are old and on imbalanced maps. That being said I think this MU is fair.

Good ol Ivan · Post by **Good ol Ivan** » 18 Sep 2015, 15:12

britishmusketeer wrote:
ivan wrote:Well idk, how about this?
http://aoe3.jpcommunity.com/rating2/stats?t=age3ySP1v1
These statistics are old

Bullshit. Its from 2010 to 2013 which is still years after the last patch -_-
AoE3 literally hasnt changed the last ~6 years, only the players. I bet if we had statistics from 2012 up to sept 2015 results would still be roughly the same.

and on imbalanced maps.

You can deselect the maps you regard as imba.

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 18 Sep 2015, 15:24

On std map that might be fair, on esoc maps france just win.

ESOC

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