Brits double rax push (need advice)

[Jets]

The standard spanish FF seems to not work anymore, plus the brits -5w it's showing again.

[SP] blackburne23[BR] vs [Bodyguard][SP] - Mongolia.age3yrec

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Mongolia

Rules: Supremacy (1v1)

Version: Definitive Edition 13.690

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[Bodyguard]

[Le Hussard sur le toit]

This MU has always been bad for Spain hasn't it ?

[Dori]

Brits is one of the hardest matchups for Spain, you can't punish the brits boom

[Jets]

This MU has always been bad for Spain hasn't it ?

I used to find my way to ff and stablish a lil army, arround 1600-1800 elo, but now it's insane how many musks can brits train before 6 min.

[Joe]

This MU has always been bad for Spain hasn't it ?

I used to find my way to ff and stablish a lil army, arround 1600-1800 elo, but now it's insane how many musks can brits train before 6 min.

1600 elo on nilla?
brit is the same as 2 patches ago, always been bad mu for spain

[Jets]

DE elo, this MU what somehow better last patch with the +5w nerf, maybe I was lucky too.

[Garja]

Didnt watch the rec but don't do aggro FF vs Brits, it never worked. Unless you scout an fb and 2 raxes just do eco FF, possibly with 5v before 700w, send eco stuff in age3 and play the midgame.
Alternatively you can musk semi which allows you to have a bit more map ctrl (you should be able to hold the fb with 9xbows from the age up, proxy minutemen and 5 dogs).

[fei123456]

Didnt watch the rec but don't do aggro FF vs Brits, it never worked. Unless you scout an fb and 2 raxes just do eco FF, possibly with 5v before 700w, send eco stuff in age3 and play the midgame.
Alternatively you can musk semi which allows you to have a bit more map ctrl (you should be able to hold the fb with 9xbows from the age up, proxy minutemen and 5 dogs).

It makes no difference. You can't hold 10+ hussar 50+ muskets at 10:00.

[Garja]

Yes you can if you stay in base and make hard countering units such as skirm/rods. Falcs benefit from staying in base and you can call mm and even use vills if necessary. Eventually (past 10 minutes) you have a balanced army of quality units and you can start slowly grabbing more map.
And unlike Russia Brits don't have the fast age up so they can't just mass a ton and suddendly age up if they see Spain is being passive (also unlike Russia Brits don't scale as well in late fortress).
It's not an easy MU for Spain, but defaulting to the aggro FF gives you less chances of winning. Vs the double rax doing some low eco FF is fine tho, because you have a target mid map which if taken down is usually a winning condition.

[Jets]

the only solution I found succesfull was to place my buildings strategically and wall some chokes, ship 2falcs and hold until i got a crucial mass to push, some goons added, and kept the rods from shipments only, maybe an artillery foundry later to deal with 50 musks, and of course the cherry on top, unction.