So it's Italy after all. Any thoughts?

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So it's Italy after all. Any thoughts?

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Looks like a Mediterranean civilization like Ports, Spanish and Ottomans.

Apparently Elmeti will become their unit(?) Shame, I really liked that unit as Merc when I started playing AOE3. :huh:
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This is good. I am trying to get back into the game and there is no better way to do so than to play an overpowered civilization.
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:
10 May 2022, 08:25
This is good. I am trying to get back into the game and there is no better way to do so than to play an overpowered civilization.
I've got a feeling it's probably going to be fine and it will mostly be a matter of tweaking down numbers. The only thing I fear are the 4.5 speed ranged infantry and the 4.75/5.0 speed Heavy infantry omnipresent in D.E. civilizations.

Plus, nothing can ever top the ludicrous stuff put into Mexico.
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i have a feeling those are workable banks.
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DNLgibraltar wrote:
10 May 2022, 08:33
Mr_Bramboy wrote:
10 May 2022, 08:25
This is good. I am trying to get back into the game and there is no better way to do so than to play an overpowered civilization.
I've got a feeling it's probably going to be fine and it will mostly be a matter of tweaking down numbers. The only thing I fear are the 4.5 speed ranged infantry and the 4.75/5.0 speed Heavy infantry omnipresent in D.E. civilizations.

Plus, nothing can ever top the ludicrous stuff put into Mexico.
I just hope Italy isn't overly complicated like some of the newer civilizations. I have no urge whatsoever to learn what a Mexico is.
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Hope it will be cool. But I'm afraid it will turn out to be a very dumb civ in total, with a few unstoppable units/builds.
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Also, are we going to talk about Leonardo da Vinci's tank behind the cathedral? It might just be a new cheat code, but for the memes I really hope it's a real unit.
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:
10 May 2022, 13:58
Also, are we going to talk about Leonardo da Vinci's tank behind the cathedral? It might just be a new cheat code, but for the memes I really hope it's a real unit.
Didn't even notice. Probably air baloon or cheat

Apparently they can trade with carts from the market. Also what are those sloops, merchant boats or just props?
jonasnee wrote:
10 May 2022, 08:37
i have a feeling those are workable banks.
They are banks for sure
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So, units are elmeti, goons, genoese xbow, pike, halberdier, and a unique rifle, also it seems a regular xbow between market and dock.

Also they build banks(produce coin or maybe new resource?), and market seems producing wagons?

On water, they have caravel, and a unique boat. Also it seems an venetian arsenal on left bottom corner. There should be unique techs for water i guess.
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Just release the civ not being busted and we will be pretty good, hyped af about this!
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Who is the guy hiding in the shadow of the tree in the upper left?
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duckzilla wrote:
10 May 2022, 16:34
Who is the guy hiding in the shadow of the tree in the upper left?
Looks like the same guy that is standing between the 2 banks.
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duckzilla wrote:
10 May 2022, 16:34
Who is the guy hiding in the shadow of the tree in the upper left?
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untore

No idea what's his role. Maybe just campaign/historical battle props.

By the way, looks like they also have some kind of unique arsonist (guy with the torch on mid left)
Also bankers (those dressed like envoy)
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I hope the tank is the explorer. 90% ranged resist with 2 speed.
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I wouldn't want to be too fiscal but for sure at that time the flag wasn't yet that of today but it was that of the Kingdom of Italy with the Savoy coat of arms in the center.
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Considering all the fuss about other flags being not accurate for their era, they can surely fix it for Italy too
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Yeah, let's reopen that Pandora's Box and also discuss the German flag, which doesn't stand for Germany at all. It's the two-headed eagle and is clearly a symbol of the multicultural construct called HRE with its German, Italian, Czech, Dutch, Polish, etc. subjects.

Here you can find a list of German flags. Good picks could be the banner of the King of Germany, the flag of Royal Prussia (due to Friedrich der Große being die künstliche Intelligenz für die Deutschen) or the German Empire flag, although the last one tends to have negative connotations nowadays.
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:
10 May 2022, 16:58
I hope the tank is the explorer. 90% ranged resist with 2 speed.
You're getting confused with the Aztec hero
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duckzilla wrote:
10 May 2022, 20:03
Yeah, let's reopen that Pandora's Box and also discuss the German flag, which doesn't stand for Germany at all. It's the two-headed eagle and is clearly a symbol of the multicultural construct called HRE with its German, Italian, Czech, Dutch, Polish, etc. subjects.

Here you can find a list of German flags. Good picks could be the banner of the King of Germany, the flag of Royal Prussia (due to Friedrich der Große being die künstliche Intelligenz für die Deutschen) or the German Empire flag, although the last one tends to have negative connotations nowadays.
I don't know what to tell you, I didn't understand De's system of flags, it would be better to put the flags of the last period of the game that is, almost the end of the 1800s excluding the natives.
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flag nerds are the worst
jus a bish
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Where did this screenshot come from?
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callentournies wrote:
11 May 2022, 04:02
flag nerds are the worst
The flag is a symbol of the nation :smile:
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Leaving out flags and all, when will this civ come out?
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TranceGate wrote:
11 May 2022, 11:07
Leaving out flags and all, when will this civ come out?
This month (?). June at worst.

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