Learning to lame port water

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@deleted_user5 sea battle , am I playing it right ? I wanna know if I should do a dock on opponent side if he gets the very middle spot. because else i control 1/4 of sea
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Senor_Boe wrote:@deleted_user5 sea battle , am I playing it right ? I wanna know if I should do a dock on opponent side if he gets the very middle spot. because else i control 1/4 of sea
your 2nd tc placement wasnt that good, your play on water was so passive tbh, then you let him build outposts nearby your tc while you could just snipe his vills by using tc fire. Also your investment was too much after losing half of the water, but since opponent also made some mistakes, you won it.
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Make Disciple (passive; available at the Colonial Age): Gives breeze t̵h̵e̵ ̵S̵h̵a̵o̵l̵i̵n̵ ̵m̵a̵s̵t̵e̵r̵ a 10% chance to turn any enemies he defeated [using port water lame] into a Disciple.
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@deleted_user5 Iro 232 siege damage rush . This was really weird & I was a bit late with my eco so I made 5 docks later . Also , I always wanted to say this ; I'm never comfortable with my late game composition to be honest , goon / artilery don't really seem enough .. and If I consider adding cassadors it seems much harder as I have to do more improvements & even more buildings.
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I will watch them soon.
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deleted_user wrote:I will watch them soon.
Not even time to make great polls but watching all records. :hmm:
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@Senor_Boe lets start with the game against french,
your dock placement was not that good, you should put them more seperate generally. and when he is pushing with caravels you did good job defending with warship, other than that your macro was so bad in this game, you also play it very passive,a you can do better

About the game vs iro, you should generally try to do 12 or 10 villager up if possible in this mu. it's an indeed hard one but still, if you don't waste a lot like you did, you will have more chance to win. also nice job protecting the beach this time.

About the game vs brit, you did a good opening and it went good overall until mid game. but I don't get it how you can't stop that fort lol, you could just pull your frigate to more back position and deny that without getting nuked by falcs but it doesn't matter since your opponent didn't boom at all so taking water won't benefit him any aswell. but the way you lost the water was so pathecic tbh.

Also, its time to start learning new water maps IMO. I'm done with more florida games lol
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deleted_user wrote:@Senor_Boe lets start with the game against french,
your dock placement was not that good, you should put them more seperate generally. and when he is pushing with caravels you did good job defending with warship, other than that your macro was so bad in this game, you also play it very passive,a you can do better

About the game vs iro, you should generally try to do 12 or 10 villager up if possible in this mu. it's an indeed hard one but still, if you don't waste a lot like you did, you will have more chance to win. also nice job protecting the beach this time.

About the game vs brit, you did a good opening and it went good overall until mid game. but I don't get it how you can't stop that fort lol, you could just pull your frigate to more back position and deny that without getting nuked by falcs but it doesn't matter since your opponent didn't boom at all so taking water won't benefit him any aswell. but the way you lost the water was so pathecic tbh.

Also, its time to start learning new water maps IMO. I'm done with more florida games lol
I agree ! It's been fun florida , what map do you suggest next ?
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@deleted_user5 is it a bug or does New England have 2 whales only lol
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Senor_Boe wrote:@deleted_user5 is it a bug or does New England have 2 whales only lol
I'm not sure but as I remember NE water spawn is quite random, sometimes most fishes spawn top side but only a few in the bottom etc. that's because of the random islands bugging the water maybe Idk, @Maps Team would know it more I guess.
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the water constraints on NE are inadequate to space out the fish properly and evenly. as for the whales it kinda depends where RNG places the first whale whether there will be adequate space for the next ones to spawn according to theor own constraints of being some distance from land and some distance from each other, which also depends on the island spawns, how even the coastline is, etc
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@deleted_user5 seems like a hard map to wall .
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What about DE :D
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:What about DE :D
I heard it is shit rn.
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Rohbrot wrote:
Mr_Bramboy wrote:What about DE :D
I heard it is shit rn.
Only if you are a top player or a caster, not if you're a major spamming port water games.
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:What about DE :D
DE should always spawn with 4 evenly spaced and balanced whales
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@Senor_Boe lets start with the first game on New england, this game was great to watch overall, you had so good dock placement, great bo execution with great walling and so on. you played it perfect, if you keep improving like this, you will soon rekt my other disciple @Kynesie

about the 2nd game vs otto

you had great dock placement again, moving villager to the top island was a great trick there. But your 2nd tc placement was horribly bad, you could have placed it nearby beach so that you would send caravels for it atleast, but the place where you put it didn't make any sense tbh. Also unless you know about your otto opponent on water, you should always put 2 tcs together against otto otherwise it is risky, anyway you adopted well with making hussars early on, that's also how you hold the grenadier rush most of the time, maybe could add some xbows or outposts if opponent is making all in, gg

about the russia game

you did a nice bo execution again but I'm unsure if you were way greedy that game, you could have hold the push and saved your tcs if you made units earlier. but it's about the playstyle I guess, I'm not saying you did wrong but I would probably make units earlier.

about the last game vs brit,

your bo execution was great as usual, aswell as walling skills were great to watch, but I'm unsure why you would prefer investing to naval too much early game, it is always better to go for canoes early game until it's late age III or age IV. other than that, it was a nice game overall gg


Also btw, don't play on madwalaw the map is not standard at all, try for saguenay or patagonia? those 2 are on the DE qs aswell.
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It's been 2 months ! :O . Happy new year tho @deleted_user5 :)
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Big boe on DE!
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